Let's play the Design a cycle game!

[alfons]

I thougth I would post a cycle and maybe you can give some input on it, what if any would you change and why? REMEMBER that this is what we are playing with, no more EQ or Dbol or whatever.

Week 1-2: 400mg EQ every week
Weeks 3-10: EQ at 200mg every week
Weeks 1-10: Test prop EOD - total of 500mg per week
Weeks 3-9 Tren 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-6 15mg Dbol ED
Week 8-11 Winny 25mg ED taken, dose split in 3 or 4 per day.
Weeks 1-12 Proviron 25mg ED
Weeks 1-14: Nolvadex 20mg ED
Weeks
Weeks 13-14Clen ED

HCG 500iu ed Weeks 10+11, then Clomid 12-14 300/100/50

What do you say?

Suppliements Alpha lipoic acid 1.5g ED, c-vitamin, multivitamin, liver detox extract(with milktistle and dandellion and other stuff in there). Also Liv52, extra e-vitamine and B-vitamine.

Extra Flaxx seed oil and fish oil

the cycle is for mass and I rather do a little lower on the orals and bump the time on them. Shooting for a little more carbs this diet and fat, less protein(1.5g per lb). Seems like I gain more muscle that way while bulking.

Thoughts?

[Billy_Bathgate]

I wouldnt even waste my time on it.

Double the dose on everything and you got a nice cycle.

Eq at 200 isnt going to do much at. Dbol at 15 isnt either. I guess the prop is decent. The tren..maybe, low for my taste and should be ED shots. The winny is too low for the effects that most look for, which doesnt make much sense that you have it in since you said you are looking for mass..winny doesnt exactly pack on the mass.

I guess it would be fine for a first or second cycle though...

Id sell the winny. Buy another bottle of EQ and some more dbol to at least 30mg ED worth. Run the Tren ED and probally increase to at least 75mg ED.

[goliath]

You need more gear.

[PARABOLAN]

im with goliath... u need more gear...

[Chemical Evolution]

tell us what you got first!

[alfons]

What? more gear? I know I can gain nicly on 500mg Test per week, this is not a muscle spare cycle. I will focus on the diet and eat big. The test will be pretty high anyway to grow a lot from. I thing 1g test is just overdoing it. I havn't done test in 2 years so I think the respons will be nice. Tren I have done before even at 75mg ED, but that was for cutting and I don't think one need the big doses if bulking.

I know 15mg dbol ED sound a bit low, but I've seen people gain a lot on 10mg ED in the morning. I think the hole mix will give me nice gains. I personally never notice any difference between 75mg tren ED and 100mg EOD, It's all oin your diet. I rather focus on the diet than do higher doses.

Anyone else have anything to add.

Thanks for the replies anyway, It seems like you like the high dose better more than me. It's always nice to hear what other people think and beleeve in. I try not to do as many people do nowadays. Just look back in time at the BB of the 70ties, I KNOW many didn't use the big amounts of gear many are using today, and they were still pretty big and looked very good IMO.

I rahter gain a but less and keep it than blow up and loose 10lb after. I've done that before and it sucks. My goals are to gain a solid 12-14lb LBM and hold that weight.

More comments.

This is what we are playing with, sorry..

EQ 12ml - 200mg/ml
Prop: 50ml - 100mg/ml
Tren: 40mg - 100mg/ml
Winny: 20 blue small suckers 50mg tab's(used them before and I love them)
Dbol: 130dbol( I rather do 15mg for a longer period than up the dose).
Proviron 25mg - 100tabs
Nolvadex: Enough
12000iu HCG
clomid fpr 300mg day 1/100mg 10 days/50mg 7 days

[iced]

i think mainly its the EQ and dbol, test is fine. IMO eq should be ran at at least 400mg, and try the dbol at 25mg, it will almost last u for 4 weeks. Save the EQ for another cycle if ur not willing to get more

[alfons]

I thought the EQ might help me with vascularity, and maybe help me hold away some fat as a higher dose did for me. I also think it might help with keeping gains better as it tappers down slowly from week 10 and about 2½ - 3 week more. I'm doing to look for more EQ. But I still consider to use only 15mg dbol per day.

[iced]

well if ur so hell bent on doing what u want to, why ask for advice u are not taking?

[jstrong20]

yeah I think you could get gains off that cylce. You have enough to run 500mgs of test ed plus 50mgs of tren ed and just that would be enough to get some sort of gains. And the others added won't hurt. Although it does look like you got someones left overs.

[alfons]

I just would like to know how you would cycle it, if you used it all. Not, "I would bump this or that", and leave this and that out. How would you run the cycle with that exact amount of gear.

[alfons]

Originally posted by jstrong20
yeah I think you could get gains off that cylce. You have enough to run 500mgs of test ed plus 50mgs of tren ed and just that would be enough to get some sort of gains. And the others added won't hurt. Although it does look like you got someones left overs.

True, they are left overs from an old cycle. Not the tren and prop, proviron and nolvadex. But the other stuff, so I thought WTF I wont sell it, wont give it away and do not like to store that little ampount, so why not use it.

[jack hust]

your eq dose is a waste imho up it to atleast 400mg

[jstrong20]

Originally posted by alfons
True, they are left overs from an old cycle. Not the tren and prop, proviron and nolvadex. But the other stuff, so I thought WTF I wont sell it, wont give it away and do not like to store that little ampount, so why not use it.

I don't see whats wrong with the way you have it layed out.

[JohnnyB]

500mg of test is fine you'll get a little more test from the prop. Prop has 83mg per 100mg and enan has 72mg per 100mg.

EQ is best run at 400mg a week at least and since it takes 17-21 days to clear your system, you could run the prop, fina and winny up to week 13, if you only go 10 weeks with the EQ. Just adjust the weeks you don't have to add any weeks.

I think all your doses are fine. It's your body and you know how it will reacts, better then any of us.

I agree with you BBs back in the day didn't use high doses. Here's a thread that has some of the doses that were used back then.

http://www.fitnessgeared.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4288

JohnnyB