NU-B First cycle help

[rado]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

HCG is not a requirement for deca. It's not a requirement for any gear

And neither is Clomid, Nolva, Liquidex, etc....


Nothing is a "Requirement" in AS use, it's just good practice and keeping the body safe.


I've been looking at your posts and when I hear you say don't take what kids say on the BBoards, well I think of you for that matter


And you still have NOT posted YOUR scientific research as to why not to use HCG on a cycle, remember that thread?

We are still waiting for your response; Here'e the links in case you don't find it
http://fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41225

Members are waiting for you to respond, thanks kid

[BM]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

I would go with either a test only @ 400 -500 mgs. a week or the same jump started with some dbol.

[edvedr]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

Bromo, if deca gives you gyno????? ---- Who told you that????

Damn.... Bro, you don't lactate from deca.

HCG is not a requirement for deca. It's not a requirement for any gear. In fact, Test E will have the most effect on your nuts. So, if he decides to run HGC, it's not because of deca - it's mostly because of Test.


Good luck with your cycle.

wow not only are you giving bad advice, your shootin down someone who IS giving GOOD advice. CALI listen to the others, they know their shit

[cbr929]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

Deca won't shut you down???? Apparetly you have never ran deca before....ANy steroid is going to shut you down including TEST if test didn't shut us down then there would be no reason to run PCT after a test cycle

As for your first cycle drop the deca and just go Test E 500mg/week 10 weeks
save deca for your 3 or 4 cycle

[cbr929]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

Bromo, if deca gives you gyno????? ---- Who told you that????

Damn.... Bro, you don't lactate from deca.

HCG is not a requirement for deca. It's not a requirement for any gear. In fact, Test E will have the most effect on your nuts. So, if he decides to run HGC, it's not because of deca - it's mostly because of Test.

CaliYoked, my advice to you --- do some outside research.
A good start would be - go to the University of Maryland archives. They have been researching AAS for a long time. You can learn the science behind each steroid you want to use. --- Don't rely solely on what kids on BBoards say.

Good luck with your cycle.

Man if you can't give any better advice than this you need to stop answering post this is totally WRONG information

[T-Man007]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

Test only this time around, trust the experts.

When there is 1 person vs. 10, the 10 are usually right. Especially the 10 in this thread who have been around this game for a long time. Trust the majority. They are right on this one.

[blink]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

I'll throw my $.02 in.

First, I'd suggest that you get your BF down a bit. Second, even though there are plenty who do complicated cycles for their first, and grow, never have problems, etc., it's not advisable in the long term.

Let's face it - I've never known anyone who did just one cycle, this bigger, stronger game is longer term than that. Run 500mg Test only for your first cycle - any Test. You WILL grow, assuming diet and exercise are keyed in.

Make sure that you have Nolva on hand, in case you start getting gyno symptoms. Have Clomid on hand for PCT.

There are a few reasons why I recommend a Test-only first cycle. One, you get to learn how your body responds to a particular compound. For instance, I learned that Test Prop gives me really painful heartburn! The second reason is that on your first cycle, you're gonna grow like a weed - no need to waste money on additional compounds.

Let us know what you decide.

[lxorl]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

a good and easy first cycle is Test 500mg/week 10 weeks.

simple

[DragonRider]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

Bromo, if deca gives you gyno????? ---- Who told you that????

Damn.... Bro, you don't lactate from deca.


Don't rely solely on what kids on BBoards say.

Good luck with your cycle.

This is common knowledge in the bodybuilding community. Even New-b's know this. I'm 47 and I know JSJS24, Rado, Pigmeat and cbr929 have been in this game for awhile. Some of these guys taught me.

[blink]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

Bromo, if deca gives you gyno????? ---- Who told you that????

Damn.... Bro, you don't lactate from deca.

HCG is not a requirement for deca. It's not a requirement for any gear. In fact, Test E will have the most effect on your nuts. So, if he decides to run HGC, it's not because of deca - it's mostly because of Test.

CaliYoked, my advice to you --- do some outside research.
A good start would be - go to the University of Maryland archives. They have been researching AAS for a long time. You can learn the science behind each steroid you want to use. --- Don't rely solely on what kids on BBoards say.

Good luck with your cycle.

Deca (and Tren) can bring on Progesterone-induced gyno, as opposed to Estrogen-induced gyno. Anti-estrogens such as, Nolvadex, Arimidex, Femara are completely ineffective against Progesterone.

That said, progyno is relatively rare - not nearly as common as estrogen in duced gyno. Personally, I'm not gyno-prone at all, but from now on, when ever I'm using Deca or Tren, I'm going to have Dostinex on hand to be safe.

[CaliYoked]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

I appreciate all the help guys...I think I'm gonna go with the test enth and dbol soon as I can find a legite site

[edvedr]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

you will grow nicely....good luck

[BM]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

My stats as of now are 6'3" 198lbs and about 16%bf, at my heviast all natural I was 219 about 2 months ago.

First let me say I am only trying to help here and am not trying to cut you down, OK. I think GP (girlpatriot) was the only person to take notice of this and mention about it. According to your first post here at 6'3" 198 I would consider you to be very light weight. Throw in the 16% BF and your painting a not so pretty picture. As she asked, are you sure this is right? If it is your basically semi-tall, lanky and with very little lean muscle mass. Now 2 months ago you were 219. What brought you down to 198? Loss of BF or did you stop lifting for 2 months, etc. I would personally suggest if your stats are correct, to either increase your Lean Muscle Mass until your weight is at a minimum of 220 or decrease BF to at least 12%.

[CaliYoked]

Re: NU-B First cycle help

I am pretty sure that the bf is wrong, Im gonna get a test in the next few days at 24 and will post the results. The 220 to 198 was alot of bf loss because I was doing cardio off the hook and not eating alot when my lady and I split up. Thanks for the help, I will get the bf test and post it so u guys can help. I truley appreciate all this, for real guys.