wat u guys think of my first cycle?

[big boy20]

1-5/weeks test cyp 400mg
1-5/weeks deca 400mg
5-8/weeks test prop 100mg eod
5-12weeks winny v 50mg ed

then clomid therapy 300/100/50
and nova on hand if i need it

and this is my first cycle 19years old 190lbs 5'7 been training for 6 years .wat do u guys think of this cycle i spent lots of time planning this

[lsu777]

ok you kinda got the right idea but still a little off. you have your test mixed up. cyp takes 5 to 6 weeks to kick in as does deca so no need to run them just 5 weeks. prop should be used at the begining to jump start the cycle. you could just run cyp though which would be much easier, but if you want to run prop do it like this:
1-10/test cyp 400mg
1-10/deca 300mg
1-4 or 5/test prop 100mg eod
6-12/winny 50mg ed
plus clomid and nolva.
you might want to run liquidex to. it will keep the bloat down. good luck man. hope i cleared some things up for ya.

[TESTing]

Originally posted by lsu777
ok you kinda got the right idea but still a little off. you have your test mixed up. cyp takes 5 to 6 weeks to kick in as does deca so no need to run them just 5 weeks. prop should be used at the begining to jump start the cycle. you could just run cyp though which would be much easier, but if you want to run prop do it like this:
1-10/test cyp 400mg
1-10/deca 300mg
1-4 or 5/test prop 100mg eod
6-12/winny 50mg ed
plus clomid and nolva.
you might want to run liquidex to. it will keep the bloat down. good luck man. hope i cleared some things up for ya.

cant argue with that

[TESTing]

if its your first cycle you should see awesome gains

[Disposable_Hero]

I'm not sure why you have the prop in there. I dont think it's a good idead to jumpstart your first cycle with prop.

I think you should run this:

Weeks 1-10: 400mg Test
Weeks 1-10: 400mg Deca
Weeks 7-12: 50mg Winny ED

Since you have included winny, your probably trying to get lean/vascular, in that case you'll want something like liquidex to keep the bloat down, just like the post above me stated.

D_H

[TESTing]

i used prop for my first cycle, and it worked out well... I really didnt bloat all that much with 100mgs eod..maybe a light dosage did me better

[Disposable_Hero]

Prop is a great drug, I used it for my first injectable cycle too lol...I just usually dont reccomend prop to new users untill they get used to injections...but then again, I'm sure they will get used to it pretty damn quickly if theyre injecting ED.

D_H

[bigjim33]

Re: wat u guys think of my first cycle?

Originally posted by big boy20
1-5/weeks test cyp 400mg
1-5/weeks deca 400mg
5-8/weeks test prop 100mg eod
5-12weeks winny v 50mg ed

then clomid therapy 300/100/50
and nova on hand if i need it

and this is my first cycle 19years old 190lbs 5'7 been training for 6 years .wat do u guys think of this cycle i spent lots of time planning this

not the worst i have seen for the first time
i would lose the prop and do something like this:
wks 1-10, 500mg/wk of test
wks 1-10, 400mg/wk of deca
wks 8-13. 50mg/day of winny
if you want a jump start do dbol for the first 4 weeks at 30-40mg/day
i would also add l-dex in there at .25-.5 mg/day throughout the cycle and till clomid therapy ends

the above will def be an awesome 1st cycle bro. you start clomid day after winny ends.

[big boy20]

yeah it kinda makes sense all i need is another bottle of cyp,thanks for the info guys i will get my self some more gear and keep u guys updated,thinking of starting jan 6 but i got one little question for ceriousety,what would happen if i did the test cyp and the deca for 5 weeks?and i thank you guys for the information and the time

[bigjim33]

the test/deca take 4-5 weeks to kick in, so if you stopped them you would not even get half of there effect....believe me you will love 10 weeks a lot more than 5

[bowbow]

The main thing to do as everyone has stated is to run the test and deca for 10 wks. When everyone is in agreement you know it's right.

[Skarn]

The reason people use prop at the end of a cycle is so they can jump right into the Clomid Therapy without the 2-3 week wait with the longer acting esters. A LOT of people are now doing this with great results.

But for a first cycle, I agree, just stick with Cyp weeks 1-10 especially since you will have Deca in there.

I like the cycle Disposable_Hero listed and I'd add dbol in for weeks 1-4 to jumpstart.....around 30mg/day. Dbol rocks!

Did I mention how much I love Dbol?

Good luck bro!

[VveTTe917]

Originally posted by Disposable_Hero
I'm not sure why you have the prop in there. I dont think it's a good idead to jumpstart your first cycle with prop.

I think you should run this:

Weeks 1-10: 400mg Test
Weeks 1-10: 400mg Deca
Weeks 7-12: 50mg Winny ED

Since you have included winny, your probably trying to get lean/vascular, in that case you'll want something like liquidex to keep the bloat down, just like the post above me stated.

D_H

Yea i agree with this, save your prop for your next cycle and run the test, deca, winny cycle for your first. You'll see awsome gains from this, good luck.

[mbstrong]

That is to much gear for your first time. This is just me .02 but you can make great gains just from a test only cycle and then your next cycle you could do the one you have planned but I wouldn't do all that gear. It's just a waste.........

[big boy20]

hahahah thanks alot guys for the help but my head is goin 10 differnt directions now,I am gone get another bottle of cyp.do i have 2 run the deca for 10 weeks?wat about 1-10 400mg test cyp 1-7 300mg deca?it will save me 2 buy another bottle of deca b/c I spent more money on food than gear,but if I have 2 I will buy another bottle not a big problem.