I THINK I GOT IT?

[mick-G]

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mick-g i like what i'm hearing (researching) about this eq. if that is Equipoise (boldenone undecylenate) i think replacing that for the deca sounds good. anabolic bd @ 200mg/ml is this a reputable product. test enth @ 400mg/wk for 12. eq @ 400mg/wk for 12. proviron throughout @ 50 mg daily. i got the winny so could i end the last 6 weeks w/ that. what would it benefit me? that would mean i'm taking in grand total 1500mg/wk for the last 6 weeks, is that to much gear.

Yes the Equipoise is EQ or boldenone undecylenate. I was suggesting, because sounded like you were wanting to go with 2 esters. This would be much better for you than the deca for a first cycle and also yes the eq will take anywhere from 4-7wks to start kicking in. This is why i say to run for at least 12 wks. You can, as Js says drink the winny and end your cycle with it. Many ppl claim better result with IM injection with winstrol, but if you do not want frequent injects and possible pain, just drink it. Running proviron 50mg ed will also help in this harding of muscle and vascularity. So this is what i would do: test 400-500mg/wk test wks 1-13, 500mg/wk eq wks 1-12, proviron 50mg ed ( I take one in morning and one mid-afternoon, ldex or aroma .25mg throughout cycle. Start pct two wks after last inject of test. Also have nolva on hand. I do clomid for pct 300-100-50 for 21 days. I still would go with a just test cycle for 10wks at 500mg/wk, but if you must do two esters this is the cycle for what you seek. Keep in mind diet is the key to your sucesss. If you have question about a ug or hg product pm me.

[pigmeat]

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looks alot better, but i wouldnt run anything but test for first time....but 1,000 diffrent people have already told you that, 5,00 diffrent times.

[TRAM]

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easy pigmeat, everyone on this site was were i am right now and for me to except the first few opinions offered that would be ignorant on my part. i believe i have come closer to my final decision on cycling after every time i write (read) something here. so give a bro a break and give me some reason not just some statements. and don't worry my cycle has not yet been fine tuned enough so you will here from me again and again until i am totally satisfied. peace out peeps @ fg. time to free my mind.

[JsJs24]

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easy pigmeat, everyone on this site was were i am right now and for me to except the first few opinions offered that would be ignorant on my part. i believe i have come closer to my final decision on cycling after every time i write (read) something here. so give a bro a break and give me some reason not just some statements. and don't worry my cycle has not yet been fine tuned enough so you will here from me again and again until i am totally satisfied. peace out peeps @ fg. time to free my mind.

A lot of advice can be gathered before shaping your opinion, but please remember that if a mod suggests something it is usually going to be good advice. I promise I won't steer you wrong bro. Mick-g gave some excellent advice, only thing I would not do is 500mg eq. You have NEVER cycled before and therefore have NO IDEA how your body will respond. Why not do test only with maybe some dbol or winstrol (since you don't want bulk) for 5 wks at the beginning to see how you respond. This way after about wk 5 when the test kicks in you will know exactly how good your gains are from it alone. If you start out with eq and test you will not know how well you respond to eq because you won't know the difference in it and test. Achieving lean gains will depend on your diet. I for one can do dbol and test and still remain lean. If you are overweight in the fat dept. then you will need to keep a VERY strict cardio and diet. IF you use ldex ed you will also need to take nolv at around 10 or 20mg ed to keep lipids in check. Ldex is bad about screwing with lipids.

Here is exactly what I suggest:

wks 1-5 dbol 30mg ed
wks 1-10 test enan or cyp 500mg
wks 1-10 ldex .25mg ed
wks 1-10 nolv 10-20mg ed
wks 1-6 milk thistle about 500-700mg ed

PCT 2 wks after last test inject
Nolv 40mg for 2 wks, 20mg for 2 wks, 10mg for 2 wks

Take multivitanin daily, drink PLENTY of water, eat 4000-5000 cals ed.

[pigmeat]

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Every time you do a cycle, you will need more and more gear to get the results you want.The first cycle, hell you will grow like a weed from about anything. That is why you should start low dose, test only. Some guys, start so high, they need 2 grams of total aas to achieve anything.

You can go on almost any board, and ask any of the vets or mods, and 99% will tell you that 500mg test only is all you need. We cant all be wrong.

[mick-G]

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Sounded like he was determined to stack that is why i suggested the eq, as it is less harsh. I think maybe he is seeing light, as i see him asking questions about test only cycles, lol.

[azlifter]

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I am certainly no expert but I have read alot and I listen to the vets on this board. I ran a Cylce with Deca 300 at 300wk for 12 wks. I am currently on a EQ Cycle. I like the EQ way better. The reason is on the decca I had about 12 solid lbs of water weight gain. I felt like a puffer fish. I also got sore nipples with the Decca. Little bit of a scare. With the EQ I dont get the water gain. I do get super hard muscles, Great pumps in the Gym and strength increases. I am 5wks in and I went from 216 to 232lbs so far. Arms and chest are blowing up.. Literaly. I am at 950mg a week of Test and 600wk of EQ. Take L-dex at .25 a day like Mick suggested and I take 20MG of Nolv everyday.. Day after a big inject I take a Clomid 35mg. The other good side effect of the EQ is it makes you very hungry.. You will get so hungry you will eat anything in sight. This is good.. cause you aint growin unless yerr eatin..

AZ

[TRAM]

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i have seen the light and that light is to bright. but the guy standing in that light told me a test, eq, & proviron stack ended w/ a winny wind down would give me very satisfying results. my cycle schedule is in process on paper. i will soon post it w/ my pct to see what kind of constructive critizisum i can get. you guys have given me great responses and appreciate it all. test only doesn't sound bad, but i want it to sound great. w/ this stack and the effects that each one of these supplements produces in conjuction w/ the other i believe my outcome would be the same, 1st cycle or not. this may be my 1st and last cycle (i'm sure you've heard that before) I am a phenom and i have tore down every wall brought foward (mental & physical) for the challenge.

[TRAM]

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azlifter i like your input, i can't wait. i'm thinking just nolv throughout instead of the dex, it would be to $ in addition to my proviron. nolv throughout and as well as in my pct. liq. clomid is up in the air still for pct. i will post my entire cycle later on in the week check it out and let me know what you think then. i think i hear my meds calling my name. i check back in couple hours after i regain conciousness. peace out FG.

[TRAM]

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hey AZlifter i assume Az is arizona , word up to my old stomping grounds.

[mick-G]

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If your are set on running test and eq, id run ldex .25mg all the way through, especially if you are running proviron too. Just keep the nolva on hand if you see symptoms of gyno. This is not a real harsh cycle, so i don't think you will need to run it in your cycle unless for gyno.

[TRAM]

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If your are set on running test and eq, id run ldex .25mg all the way through, especially if you are running proviron too. Just keep the nolva on hand if you see symptoms of gyno. This is not a real harsh cycle, so i don't think you will need to run it in your cycle unless for gyno.

is this the way to go w/ the ldex just because it is pretty $'y, but if you say so that's the way i'll go. how would you recommend me to run my pct, if you think this is not real harsh. i'll would like to make low in cost because the proviron & ldex are going to get me.

[HungarianBeast]

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ldex is actually pretty cheap. .25mg ed only translates to about 30ml for a 90 day cycle.

[TRAM]

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IF you use ldex ed you will also need to take nolv at around 10 or 20mg ed to keep lipids in check. Ldex is bad about screwing with lipids.

PCT 2 wks after last test inject
Nolv 40mg for 2 wks, 20mg for 2 wks, 10mg for 2 wks
ok ldex w/ nolva on hand or will both have to be taken throughout the cycle. (mick-g) if i'm going to have the nolva on hand should i just take it w/ the ldex. i want to cover all bases of health procautions (gyno, lipids...) i don't want to wait & see sysmtoms then deal even if i have it on hand if all can be avoided thats the way. sorry if i'm causing anyone to repeat themselves but i noticed two different views for two good sources. as well after my last shot of test do i need to break off the ldex & nolva for a couple weeks or just keep it going.

[pigmeat]

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run the dex uo until pct. What are you running for pct.