new cycle help please

[beastwannabe]

hey was up fellas

if i decide to do just deca for my first cycle lets say 400 mg for 10 weeks, should i do HCG or clomid after my cycle.

im 23 5'9 about 190 about 17 % bf. worked out for about 1 and half.

and second question is why people do d-ball with deca or sustanon instead just deca alone wat would be the difference.?

thanks once again..

[iamdwalrus]

There's a strong possibility of suffering from decadick if you take deca by itself. That's why you need some another compound with high androgen properties to counter it. Dbol or test with deca would suffice.

[Team Flex]

I wouldnt do a Deca only cycle. It will tend to shut you down pretty hard. Thats why Test would be a good idea to add in the picture. The Test/Deca combo is great. If this is your first cycle there are a few different cycles you could pick from. I will name a few of them for you.

1.) Test only cycle

Test Enanthate Weeks 1-10 at 500mgs per week

2.) Test and Deca cycle

Test Enanthate Weeks 1-10 at 500mgs per week
Deca Weeks 1-10 at 400mgs per week

3.) Low Dose Test and Deca cycle

Test Enanthate Weeks 1-10 250mgs per week
Deca Weeks 1-10 200mgs per week


Above all three cycles are good for a beginner. Number 3 im my oppinion is a very good first cycle because your keeping your dose low and will still be able to gain 10 pounds from it.

The D-Bol is used the first 4 or 5 weeks of your cycle to kick start it. No need to use it just yet for your first cycle. If you did decide on useing the D-Bol in your first cycle I would go with 25mgs to 30mgs the first 4 weeks of your cycle.


Nolvadex in case gyno symptoms appear......


Clomid post cycle therapy

Start 3 weeks after last injection

300mgs the first day
100mgs the next 10 days
50mgs the last 10 days


Good luck on what ever cycle you chose!

[x|Fluid|x]

I like Team Flex's response, and his 3rd cycle is great for a beginner.

[viper10139]

Yes I concur!!!

[Team Flex]

Oh and if you wanted to you could switch out the Deca for EQ either one is great. EQ will give you the slow steady gains. But they are quality gains. Deca will give you more mass and water bloat though.

[Drveejay11]

Originally posted by Team Flex
I wouldnt do a Deca only cycle. It will tend to shut you down pretty hard. Thats why Test would be a good idea to add in the picture. The Test/Deca combo is great. If this is your first cycle there are a few different cycles you could pick from. I will name a few of them for you.

1.) Test only cycle

Test Enanthate Weeks 1-10 at 500mgs per week

2.) Test and Deca cycle

Test Enanthate Weeks 1-10 at 500mgs per week
Deca Weeks 1-10 at 400mgs per week

3.) Low Dose Test and Deca cycle

Test Enanthate Weeks 1-10 250mgs per week
Deca Weeks 1-10 200mgs per week


Above all three cycles are good for a beginner. Number 3 im my oppinion is a very good first cycle because your keeping your dose low and will still be able to gain 10 pounds from it.

The D-Bol is used the first 4 or 5 weeks of your cycle to kick start it. No need to use it just yet for your first cycle. If you did decide on useing the D-Bol in your first cycle I would go with 25mgs to 30mgs the first 4 weeks of your cycle.


Nolvadex in case gyno symptoms appear......


Clomid post cycle therapy

Start 3 weeks after last injection

300mgs the first day
100mgs the next 10 days
50mgs the last 10 days


Good luck on what ever cycle you chose!

Well said!

[nfceast]

Hey guys,

I've read a lot of stuff that says newbies to AS should avoid test for a few cycles but I see most of you recommend it. What's up?

[voodoochild]

Team Flex gave you some great advise. I would go for the all test first cycle however. Test should be the base of every cycle you do from now on. By using it by itself you will be able to see exactly what it feels likeand what (if any) sides you get from it. Then when you start adding other compounds you will be able to see what they add for you personally. Being your first cycle I feel you can make great gains on test alone.

On the other hand a lot of people argue that you are only a virgin once so use a nice stack and get some really incredible gains on low doses. This argument definitely has some merit. I take the long term view though. Find out what the compound that you should use in every cycle is all about first.