First REAL cycle

[Th3w0rld1sm1ne]

looking for some advice from some vets about my first real cycle. I've taken pro-hormones and pro-steroids in the past, (boldione, 4ad, methyl-d, 3-alpha) and an oral cycle of winny (waste of time)and have been waiting patiently for a shoulder injury to heal for some time so i can run a real cycle.

With my shoulder back to full strength, it looks like i'm finally going to get my chance. Anyway, here are my stats/goals

I'm 6'2 198 lbs, 10%bf. I've got about 3 years of SERIOUS training under my belt, although i'd been dicking around in the gym for years before that.

My goal is to pack on SOLID, stable, and most importantly sustainable mass... I know that many new users opt for a straight test cycle of 8-12 weeks, but i am looking for slow steady, permanant gains. So here is what i am thinking. I will run test for 8 weeks to kick up some sold gains in strength and size, and let the EQ slowly pack on the quality that will last. Someone please correct me if i am about to make a mistake with this cycle!

Weeks 1-8
Sust 500mg wk

Weeks 1-12
EQ 400mg/wk
**(should this be once a week or a monday thirday split dosage)

PCT
Weeks 11-13 HCG 500iu ED
Weeks 12-15 Nolvadex 20mg Ed

This is where most of my confusion lies (with pct) Is HCG a IM injection like gear, or is it IV? Something else? I'm in the dark here someone help me out. Also, are these the right values, time frames to run HCG? What about Nolva?

As far as pins go... What guage do i need for Sust? How about EQ? HCG? Go easy on me... this will be my first cycle of injectibles. Thanks!

-Th3w0rld1sm1ne

[TestRip7]

JMHO, sust can be used for a first time user but it generally requires more frequent injections than a straight test ether like cyp. or enanthate. I would go with one of these two at 500 mg /week for 10 weeks and you could still run the eq. at 400-600 mg /week.
--As far as gaining sustainable mass on your first cycle your pct is going to be one of the most important factors. With a good pct plan and making sure that you continue to eat 2200-2500 cals a day after you get off you can keep more that you would think. There are a number of guys who keep 75-80% of what they gain on cycles like this with proper pct.
--HCG is to be injected intramuscularly or sub-q. Im my opinion either way is fine. Do a seach on sub-q injections and it will help.
--As far as the pins go a 1"to1/1/2" 23 or 25gauge will work for most injectio

good luck, bro

[Th3w0rld1sm1ne]

Great info guys, thanks!

Am i ok on my timeframe and dosage on pct?

Should i devide my dosages of EQ up and take half monday half thirsday or take my entire weeks dose one day a week?

Thanks again!

[mick-G]

IMO, i would use the enanatate at 500mg/wk for 14wks and the EQ at 500mg/wk for 13wks and wait 2 wks after your last inject of enanatate and start pct. You need to run the EQ for alittle more that 10wks to see good results. You could even run dbol at 30mg ed for 4-5wks to jumpstart the cycle. You can split the eq once on monday and again on thursday, but it is not nessesary.

[solidground]

I agree with mick-g's suggestions..i Also if i were you, i would split the EQ and Test Enanthate into 2x per week..it is not required but it will keep your blood levels more steady and may make a difference..plus it's less oil to shoot

[badasz32]

it would it much easier to split both the test andeq to keep level equal and It would be a lot of oil at one time. so I agree with mick-g and solid