Looking for help

[Rjr3412]

I would like some advice on where to start. I have been weight training for several years now, and have also tried various ECA's over this time. The ephedra products do seem to start working well, but than the effect seems to die just as good results start to appear. I can get cardio and diet in order but it is not effective enough. I have experience with several PH's, but have been studying into AS's. It's become clear that as my goal is fat loss and general cutting, and that among AS's there are many choices available. If anyone can respond on a good fat loss, muscle retaining choice. Even if the advice is just to wait, i would like tips on how to get to the point where an AS would be practical. Sorry to run on so long, but I would appereciate help. Thanks

[HungarianBeast]

Posting phrases like "searching for sources" will lead you to trouble. Be careful.

[FUZO]

WELL LETS START WITH YOUR STATS. AND ABOUT PMS ABOUT SOURCES,NO NO.IF YOU COME ACROSS SOME THING PM ME AND I WILL TELL YOU MY OPINION. BUT IN NO WAY WILL I GIVE OUT ANY SOURCES.WE ARE HEAR TO HELP YOU IN FITNESS. AND HOW OLD ARE YOU

[Rjr3412]

well for some stats I'm at about 185, and 17%BF, my goal is to cut that BF down, while retaining strength and muscle. As for asking about sources I'm sorry. It will not happen again. I'll follow the advice of finding a possible, and PMing about its legitimacy.

[Slightly Enhanced]

provide age too please

also how long have you been traing

[pigmeat]

Only strict diet, and lots of cardio will get you cut. AAS will keep you from losing muscle while achieving this.
That said, I recomend Test only at 400-500mg week for all first timers

[Rjr3412]

i've been training for about three years, and have cardio and diet in line, along with lots and lots of water. But I'd rather not start with an injectable. What orals or transdermals are effective for a newbie? thanx

[MYRICK]

I DONT RECOMMEND TEST SINCE UR 17%BF ACTUALLY ID GET DOWN TO 10-12%MAXIMUM THEN MAYBE START THE TEST

[justgettinbig]

i been told injectables much better then pills through your system
less harsh. not sure if true only on my second cycle

[mick-G]

Those transdermal no good there mostly for hrt. If you use test enanthate or cyp only cycle with maybe dbol to kickstart, you'll only have to inject once a wk and you should get really good results. I would, like MYRICK said lower the bf, before starting.