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    hey was up everybody? i wanna do my first cycle but i dont know too much about juice. im 5'9 188lb been lifting for about 18 months. i started at about 170 lb. but now it seems like i have hit a platto . i have been around the same weight for about 5 months and i haven't got any stronger for past 8 months. i train very hard i eat good but nothing seems to help.
    Im about 16% bf. i heard that deca is pretty good but i need help!!

    So my question is wat should i start off with and how much should i take it for? also im 23 so do i need to use clomid after i do a cycle of deca lets say.

    I would appreciate any help u guys could give me.
    Thanks.

  • #2
    A little test enanthate, say 500 mg ew, would probably get you over that platau pretty fast, assuming your diet and training are in check.

    And yes, you need to run clomid after any cycle. Especially with something like deca as it shuts down your HPTA pretty hard.

    -Spidey
    Spidey is a fictional character. I do not use or condone the use of illegal drugs. Any references to steroids or other illegal drugs is purely for entertainment purposes and role-playing.

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    • #3
      First of all welcome, you're in the right place to start learning the basics and then moving on to the finer points of AAS. You've only been working out for 18 mo. which isn't a very long time for your body and 18lbs in that time is too shabby at all...in fact it's awesome.

      First thing before looking at AAS is to look at your diet and then your training program...we have members here that will help you out with every necessary idea that crosses your mind. Great bunch of people.

      So I think you should get out of your head that AAS is the next best thing at the moment...stress other avenues at the moment until you have a keen grip on the subject.

      Aragorn

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      • #4
        i would do a test eth 500 mg a week deca 300 a week 10 weeks and dbol for 4 weeks@25 mg ed

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Aragorn
          First of all welcome, you're in the right place to start learning the basics and then moving on to the finer points of AAS. You've only been working out for 18 mo. which isn't a very long time for your body and 18lbs in that time is too shabby at all...in fact it's awesome.

          First thing before looking at AAS is to look at your diet and then your training program...we have members here that will help you out with every necessary idea that crosses your mind. Great bunch of people.

          So I think you should get out of your head that AAS is the next best thing at the moment...stress other avenues at the moment until you have a keen grip on the subject.

          Aragorn
          As much as you probably don't want to hear it, this is probably the best advice for you at the moment. I know I couldn't wait to start either but you really need to do some research on this stuff before you start shooting a bunch of drugs into your body on the advice of a bunch of total strangers on an anonymous chat board.

          -Spidey
          Spidey is a fictional character. I do not use or condone the use of illegal drugs. Any references to steroids or other illegal drugs is purely for entertainment purposes and role-playing.

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          • #6
            so should i take anti estrogens while on cycle?
            and sorry but wat test eth does? is it like deca for bulking up?

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            • #7
              wer can i get all the info on all this stuff any good books or any ideas bros.?

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              • #8
                testosterone enanthate is just another ester of testosterone. You REALLY need to do some more research man. Your knowledge of steroids (or lack thereof) is frightening. You stand an excellent chance of really fucking yourself up here. This isn't a flame, just an honest opinion.

                -Spidey
                Spidey is a fictional character. I do not use or condone the use of illegal drugs. Any references to steroids or other illegal drugs is purely for entertainment purposes and role-playing.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by beastwannabe
                  wer can i get all the info on all this stuff any good books or any ideas bros.?
                  Excellent question. Just cruise around on the boards (there are several) and do a lot of reading. You will be amazed how much you can learn that way. Use the search option and search for specific topics you want to read about.

                  -Spidey
                  Spidey is a fictional character. I do not use or condone the use of illegal drugs. Any references to steroids or other illegal drugs is purely for entertainment purposes and role-playing.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by beastwannabe
                    wer can i get all the info on all this stuff any good books or any ideas bros.?
                    Anything thing that you're not sure about then pick a key word or words that you want to look up and use our search button in the top right hand corner (in the default skin)...also read all the stickies that are at the top of every forum...these are important to read and to make sure board rules aren't broken.

                    Aragorn

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                    • #11
                      no doubt spidey i appreciate ur opinion i dont know too much about aas.

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                      • #12
                        hey bro welcome! listen to aragorn, your diet is the first thing you should check no doubt! but if you decide youre going to do it then i just did my first cycle. i did 400mgs of testosterone cypionate for 8 weeks. i gained 23 lbs of very lean mass. just make sure you have everything in order before you decide to go that route!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by beastwannabe
                          no doubt spidey i appreciate ur opinion i dont know too much about aas.
                          you came to the right place then. read over old posts, use the search engine, read the faq forum, ect.

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                          • #14
                            you're at 16% BF. Being you I would first start to lower this with ECA and lifting at the same time. I said lift, not cardio. Then maybe a little sustanon/dbols. No need to go crazy and fancy. Let's keep it simple.

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                            • #15
                              hey bro i started my first cycle this week .. i been lifting solid for last 2 yrs. but kinda off and on for years. big thing is i have been researching stuff for a while to bro. this web site is awesome for learning. i ask alot of guestions mainly to reassure myself of the answer.taking gear is a big step i think. good luck and research

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