Voice of Reason Needed

[Emptee]

I've stated this before but here goes again:
I'm starting my first cycle which is comprised of the following plan:

week 1-5 Dbol 25mgs ed
Week 1-10 Test Enan 500mgs/week
Week 5-10 Winny 50mgs eod

PCT

I'm 6'3" 230lbs looking to get to about 260 eventually.
I'm getting the diet down and try and eat like a horse.
Been dedicatedly working out for about 1.5 years.

OK... here's my predicament.
I just got in my Test Enan but I'm still waiting on my dbol and nolva from my source. I'll probably get my nolva within the next 7 days but I'm not exactly sure about when my dbol will get in. Hopefully in a week or two.


I know that I could probably pick up the nolva at anytime, but I know I'll see the guy in less than a week. Does the possibility of gyno start that quick?

Would it be bad to start the Test now and start up the DBol whenever I get a hold on it? I would probably just extend the cycle that length of time that I was waiting for the Dbol.

I know, I know. I'm like an anxious little kid in a candy store.
Should I just shut up and wait or dive right in.
I need someone as a voice of reason.

[Dehydration]

I would start the test now, and run it for 14 weeks, I am currently on test e 500mg/wk and enjoy it, it will take a week or two tell you start noticing it anyway. It did for me.

[71olds442]

gyno wouldnt be a concern in 2wks time... especially with a long estered drug. 10straight weeks of orals could be a problem though... id either do one or the other or give yourself a break between them. also, do the winny 25mg ed instead of 50mg eod.. it has a short half life, so the 25mg ed would give you more stable blood levels

[Got Gear?]

DO NOT start your cycle without everything you need in your possesion.

Shit happens... your nolva could get caught by customs, or you could get scammed or whatever. It's not worth it bro.. I know your excited and want to get started ASAP, but it's worth the wait.

You wouldn't believe how many people contact me in a panic to get nolva because gyno is starting to set in and their nolva hasn't shown up for one reason or another.

[DOUBLE J]

Originally posted by Dehydration
I would start the test now, and run it for 14 weeks, I am currently on test e 500mg/wk and enjoy it, it will take a week or two tell you start noticing it anyway. It did for me.

NO!

Have everything before you start, peroid. Shit happens. I have seen it over and over.
RULE #1 have ALL you shit before starting.

Also drop the Winnie. 10 wks of orals is too long and it cannot be worked into a 10 wk cycle!
It is also not needed in a first cycle. Trust me

[DOUBLE J]

Looks like we said the same thing at the same time.

MUST be good advice

[Emptee]

I was actually going to use Winstol Depot to save the liver.
I was actually considering taking a week off inbetween the DBol and the Winny anyways. Maybe knocking the Dbol back to 4 weeks or just extending the cycle.

I'll call my guy tonight and see if he has any nolva now. I was just too excited when we last talked.

Like I said, kid in a candy store.

[Dehydration]

It seems like he'll get the pct, he's just not sure about the d bol, so therefore thats me explaination! but listen to the Mod's, thats why there mods!

[71olds442]

injecting or drinking it hurts the liver the same... its still 17aa and it still goes through the liver. im sorry, but i thought the guy HAD the nolva and you were just picking it up. i wouldnt start til you have it in your hand. sorry

[DOUBLE J]

Injectable Winnie STILL passes through your liver.

With orals time on=time off or suffer if not.

[Emptee]

No, I'm sure he does have all PCT gear. Trust me, the boy does some business and is well known. We had discussed previously about the PCT and he said that he took care of everything.
But I was just confirming that it would be stupid not to be absolutly sure.
I completely concurr with the mods and will get an absolute answer before starting anything.

I wasn't going to buy the Winny until that time due to cash reserves and lack of true necessity, but I know that is always available.

My question still stands about extending the cycle until the Dbol gets in. He just ran out of all those and is waiting for his delivery.

[FUZO]

JUST WHAT THE GUYS SAID.NEVER START YOUR CYCLE UNLESS YOU HAVE EVERY THING YOU NEED

[HungarianBeast]

WAIT.

[Skarn]

I would wait bro. You've waited this long. The best thing about dbol, is it kicks in fast and is great for jumpstarting your cycle so you can see some results while waiting the 4-5 weeks for the test to kick in.

Also, you say you are 230 and want to get to 260....very doable with dbol and test and great diet. But I see zero need for winny. Winny is a cutting drug and in my opinion would be a waste not to mention what the others have said about your liver.

It's your first....no need to overdo it. You will LOVE the dbol/Test cycle....trust me

Good luck!
Skarn

[Emptee]

Thanks guys for all your help.
As I said, I needed some voices of reason.
I'll wait till I get my PCT.