D-bol and PCT

[malitz]

Hi all. I'm 5 days away from starting my 1st cycle and have been doing research for quite some time now. I currently have on hand:

4000 mg Test. Cyp.
2200 mg Deca
D-bol, plenty
Nolvadex, plenty
Clomid, plenty

Profile:
5'9
165lbs
24
6 year training experience

Goal: 10-15 pounds

I was considering running the following cycle:

Weeks 1-4: D-bol, 30mg ED
Weeks 1-10: 400 mg Cyp
Weeks 1-10: 200 mg Deca

However, I've reconsidered and have decided on an oral-only cycle for my 1st time. I really want to go all out, but I think the less gear I use the better, and that I will still get some reasonable gains from d-bol. Furthermore, I think I will develop an understanding of how my body reacts to AAS and that will help in the consideration of future cycles.

The only question I have left is how relevent PCT is with a straight d-bol cycle. Should I be doing Nolva throughout? Is PCT even necessary at the end of such a cycle? Here is what I was thinking of doing:

Week 1: 10mg ED
Week 2: 20mg ED
Weeks 3-4: 30 mg ED
Week 5: 20mg ED
Week 6: 10mg ED

While some may think the light start is a waste, I want my body to have the opportunity to respond and adjust before I attempt a larger dosage. Therefore, I think a gradual increase makes the most sense. I'm also some may think that 6 weeks is a long time to run an oral cycle, but I think that given the relatively low dosage it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm eager to hear thoughts and comments before I start, especially concerning the PCT strategy. All thoughts and comments are welcome, of course

[malitz]

Not to flame, but you've done research for quite some time......

And you still think a Dbol only cycle is good?

Well, not to flame, but instead of implying that I'm talking out of my ass, why not respond with some constructive criticism instead? Yes, I actually have done research, and have been recommended by both people I know and in online message forums to try a D-bol cycle for my 1st time, for the exact reasons I've already stated.

If you don't think D-bol is good, that's great. However, a one-liner with less meat than a McDonald's burger isn't exactly helpful.

[joe22]

Advice: dont taper dosages.
Better advice: run test only or test + dbol

[FUZO]

MALITZ,NOLVA YES THROUGH OUT CYCLE 20MG A DAY.DO 500MG A WEEK OF CYP,200MG OF DECA WILL NOT DO ANY THING. YOU NEED 400MG A WEEK.AND IF YOU CHOOSE TO RUN THE DBOL 6 WEEKS OK 30 GOOD 40 BETTER BUT MAKE SURE YOUR TAKING LIVER PROTCTERS. MILK THISTLE,LIVER DETOX OR LIV 52. WERE NOT FLAMMING ONLY HELPING. AND IMO DBOL CYCLE IS A WASTE. YOU CAN EVEN DROP THE DECA AND DO TEST DBOL.

[FUZO]

IF YOU DO THE DECA YOU NEED THE TEST SOME WHAT HIGH SO WONT GO LIMP

[malitz]

WERE NOT FLAMMING ONLY HELPING

I appreciate the criticism dude, provided that it is tactful and meaningful. Thanks to all for the info.

[71olds442]

i agree with the others... there are SO many people that tried the oral only and then came back and wished they hadnt. dbol at those dosages will do pretty much nothing except shut you down... run test at 400mg/wk for 10wks and dbol at 30-40 for the first 4-5wks..youll be much happier.

[HungarianBeast]

Test/dbol. Save the deca. Don't waste time on the oral only cycle.

[Dehydration]

I'd have to say if you do d-bol and deca you'd be shut down real hard. Real hard! I just started D in my cycle, and I have on every cycle but I only run 25mg ed and I use test on every cycle, I am still a newbie and I have done plenty research and ask a a lot of questions.

For PCT I'd just hold out, and the oral only isn't the way to go as everyone stated. Its not worth it to your liver and won't make you happy at all. Plus you will prob just gain a lot of water bloat and lose the muscle gain when U get off.

Plus your D-bol at 10mg a day that wont do much at all, especially being the only thing to be on. IMO it will be a waste! Take everyones advice and restructure your cycle. Its better to do it right the first time. No need for a learning experence.

[malitz]

So pull your head out of your culo and realize you are wrong. We are here to help but if you've "RESEARCHED" as you call it, you'd see dbol only cycle is a horrible idea.

Wrong about what? I was asking for advice with a basis of what more than 5-6 legitimate sources of AAS information have provided me with. These are people who have done cycles before, have trained people on cycles, and know just as much about AAS as any other bodybuilder.

I am not "wrong" about anything. I'm merely trying to compare different sets of advice from different people. That to me, along with understanding the functionality of different steroids, certainly would qualify as "research".

Your approach is extremely tactless and insulting. Perhaps instead of being so arrogant you can post something with actual content like everyone else has.

[Audiowaves252]

the majority of what you gain off dbol is water as you know, its good for a jumpstart on a long ester test cycle because it gives you strength and size right away, then when you come off the test kicks in. Dbol only will just put a ton water on you and when you come off, you will lose it all. imho its a bad idea bro

[Gymratforlife]

Bro run the cycle you were considering with out the deca and you will be happy if u put the time in and the diet is in check or if not run a Test only cycle wich will be fine for your first one also.But definetly dont take a Dbol only cycle because not only will you be disapointed on the gains but what you do gain you wont keep.Dbol is not something you want to use as a base its good for kickstarts and thats realy about it.

[malitz]

Instead of being cocky and thinking you know everything about juice, why don't you sit back and do more research? All these guys have listed reasons why not to do D-Bol only. I'm done, I'm not going to get into a flame war with a newbie.

I should sure hope you're done. Nothing you have said even remotely resembles an intelligent comment.

If someone is asking questions, it means that they've conceded that they're looking to educate themselves. I know that concept may be a little difficult for your tiny brain to comprehend, but at least make an effort. I'd rather be a newbie to steroids then an ignorant troglodyte like yourself.