How bad is a Tren only cycle?

[Ring Steel]

I'm currently 34 year old, 6'0", 208 lbs @ 18% bodyfat. I've never tried any kind of gear before, but I want to start my first cycle at the end of summer. I am now dieting down, and I plan to start the cycle at 10 to 13% bodyfat.

I know that it's usually recommended to add test to a tren cycle because the tren alone would shut down test production. But how bad of a problem would this be on a tren only cycle? Does it just make the sex drive go away? if so, I can handle that for a couple of weeks, lol. Or does the lack of test slow down the muscle gaining?

thanks for any advice.

[wheelbarrel]

Bad idea, you'll need to add some type of test, if your doing tren, you can get syno (test prop), or at least use 4-AD, won't help with adding mass, but it might keep it up.

With out test, you'll get "fina dick" and it'll last more that just a few weeks, may be several months. Along with the fina dick, you'll get depression from not being able to get it up, it's bad enough post cycle with out fina dick.

Your at the right age, your natural test is starting to go down, just do the research. There's alot info out there to learn before you start your cycle.

[cbr929]

Personally I wouldn't run it without test but I know of guys who get major wood and great gains off of tren only cycles but like I said before always use test

[jamesbrosky]

tren only never bothered me too much.

[BossMann]

I've done it three times at 100mg/day for six weeks and it's been fine. Still got boners so no problems there. Give it a whirl, but have a PCT ready.

[mick-G]

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[BossMann]

No. I'm a firm believer that a test only first cycle does the job just fine.

[mick-G]

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[wheelbarrel]

Originally posted by mick-G
I don't know?? YOu think the tren is good for a first cycle?

So long as you do the research, know the side affects, other supplements to take with it, and run it with test, makes a good first cycle. The most importain thing to know with tren is you may have more aggresion, keep it under control, if you have a problem with agression, don't use it.

Start with a low dose and see how you react. Try 100 mgs test, 75 mgs tren EOD, this is a low dose, but if you can handle it you may want to up the doseage for the next cycle.

[BossMann]

Originally posted by wheelbarrel
So long as you do the research, know the side affects, other supplements to take with it, and run it with test, makes a good first cycle. The most importain thing to know with tren is you may have more aggresion, keep it under control, if you have a problem with agression, don't use it.

Start with a low dose and see how you react. Try 100 mgs test, 75 mgs tren EOD, this is a low dose, but if you can handle it you may want to up the doseage for the next cycle.

Do you not think it's a tad overkill for a newby? I have seen 400mgs of test put 30lbs on first cycles.

[BigD]

Tren only is a fine cycle, only thing I have my doubts about is the fact that you're new to the game, you might not be able to handle ed or even eod injects. Otherwise, fina, the hormone itself, is, IMO, a great steroid to use alone.

[mick-G]

If you want to do a first cycle and you want to cut more with less water retention, why not do prop at 100mg/eod for say 10-12 wks and maybe add some anavar 30mg ed wks 10-14 and run ldex at .25mg ed. Start pct after last var. This will give you great strenght gains and muscle hardness. IMO, tren especially doing it alone for a first cycle is far too harsh and will shut you down hard without the test.

[Ring Steel]

Thanks for the info guys. I'll keep researching and considering other options, as it's still about 4 1/2 months away before I start one.

[BossMann]

Good luck...I have run fina alone many times with good results. I just think a test only cycle will be a lot better for your introduction to the dark side.

[DOUBLE J]

Please! test only as opposed to tren only!

There is a laundry list of reasons