Am I feeling a placebo effect or is it really working?

[joe22]

Hello

Im joe, 22, 190 pounds 5'6'' at 13% BF, been training for 3 years
I'm on my first cycle:

week 1-10: 500 mg test e
PCT 2 weeks after with nolva and clomid

Im in my second week and it looks like Im allready swolen could it allready be working?

[O2BESOHUGE]

some people react to it differently. you may be getting a tad bigger already, depends on your training and diet etc...

enanthate usually takes 2-3 weeks to kick in good.

o2

[cbr929]

your probably starting to hold a little water but like O2 said people react different

[cashls]

I think how quick you feel some of the effects of testosterone is relative to how low you testosterone level is. I say this because I had a very low level and was prescribed cypionate and within 24hrs I could feel the effects.

[jack hust]

could be but i think its a meantal think right now bro test e taks me 5-6 weeks to feel it

[mcbvr6]

Originally posted by cbr929
your probably starting to hold a little water but like O2 said people react different

This would be my guess as well. You will start retaining water long before you have built any new muscle.

[Juicemonkey101]

A bro of mine always gains most of his weight in the first 4 weeks of Enan.... But then weeks 5-12 is when he starts to gain quality muscle. Point is you could wiegh more and even look bigger, but not quality muscle yet... just wait bro, only gets better!!

[joe22]

allright, thanks bros

[football54]

yea i'm on week 5 of 850mg of test enth and its just starting to kick in

AND I'M LOVEN IT!

[{R}A{G}E]

alot of it was mental with me, i felt bigger the day after lol..

After about 4 weeks or so i was really seeing some good results, or at least feeling bigger and people were already noticing. I'm not that big to begin with though so it was a big change.

[NitroGenX]

Originally posted by O2BESOHUGE
some people react to it differently. you may be getting a tad bigger already, depends on your training and diet etc...

o2

Damn right, if a first time user does his research and gets his diet (first) and training locked on the first 2-3 weeks without the gear "kicking in" should be awesome, and when the test levels rise! Holy Phuck everyone will notice. It sounds like somebody is doing research. Keep us updated!

[joe22]

Originally posted by NitroGenX
Damn right, if a first time user does his research and gets his diet (first) and training locked on the first 2-3 weeks without the gear "kicking in" should be awesome, and when the test levels rise! Holy Phuck everyone will notice. It sounds like somebody is doing research. Keep us updated!

Thank you I have been researching for more then 1 year. BTW Im up 3-4 pounds, still in week 2 of cycle.

[satoa]

For the last 20 years on a weekly basis I get asked, "how long till it kicks in". About 5 weeks to really see something concrete. Don't over analyze what it may or may not be doing at a particular time. Just smile when it happens and enjoy. I've done 40 + cycles and no 2 are alike, even if the stack is the same. Calories and sodium intake play a huge part.

[Card_Hock]

what role does sodium play in cycles Satoa

[satoa]

It makes you horde much more water when using androgens(from the aromatization-just ask any woman what salt does to her at that time of the month). If you have ever contest cycled/cut, it would probably make much more sense. Take D-bol for example, while it causes a lot of water retention by structure, eat pizza every night and see just how much more bloated you can get-and just plain stronger. You'll have to go and buy bigger pants tho. I've said it in other threads but it's worth repeating. For every one part of sodium you ingest, you retain 20 parts water. This doesn't come strictly from my mouth, but rather from many pros that I have personally met. I must also emphasize that those individuals who have more of a meso or ecto type body aren't gonna have quite that bad of a problem, but those who lean towards an endo type will. While body types are associated with shape of musculature and body fat distribution, this is something that I have noted having trained many, many people over the years, either for recreational fitness or competition. Salt just sucks all the way around if ya wanna look good - but it sure tastes good!!!