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I,ve got a friend who has been on Upjohn cyp for over 5 weeks with only a little strength gain. I've been on test enan for 4 weeks and showing good size and strength. What do you think is up with that? I've only used enan before and don't know what to tell him. I know his stuff is real because he got it from the pharmacy.
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hows his diet and training?
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Way too many different variables to say for sure why you are getting significantly different results, but it most likely has nothing to do with the minute difference between the two esters.Comment
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i dont think they would even have upjohn in a mex pharmacy would they? its USA human grade...Comment
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the differnece between esters is very little. he either may not respond as well too gear as you or his diet and training is for shit. lots of reasons he may not be doing well. cyp and enth are interchangable"SHIAT BIOTCH, thats a big ass!"
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My guess it the diet is off.Comment
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Bingo! Both are on the same gear and one is growing. Like Drenton said there are many variables BUT the #1 key to growth is the diet. I hate using the word diet it sounds like eating salad.Originally posted by cbr929
hows his diet and training?Comment
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starting stats would effect it too... i wouldnt expect someone that was 5'10 240 to gain as much as someone who was 5'10 150... are your stats comparable now?Comment
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I weigh 220 at 5'10, he is 180 at 5'9. By the way, he got his cyp from a us pharmacy. He is running 400mg a week. I know it usually takes untill around week 5 to start showing noticeable results, but he hasn't gained a pound. I've gained 10. He eats a pack of chicken breasts a day mixed with rice, but I don't know what else he eats. We also have about the same workout routine. I thought upjohn cyp was the best? My Ttokkyo enan. seems to be better.Comment
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How many previous cycles has he run and did he get it online or at a real pharmacy store? It should look like the one in the gear pictures forum, but they are not using the UpJohn on their label now, just Pharmacia only on the very bottom of the label is where it says subsidary of Pharmacia/UpJohn and that it is made in Kalamazoo, MI. Also there is no insignia in the upper right of the label anymore. Check out the lot # also. UpJohn is supposed to be the best hg out there so i'd say either diet is off or you got something fake.Comment
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