Can roids help a pulled muscle?

[lipperlanni]

I pulled my quad back in november of last year and i've given it about 4 months to recover. It feels pretty strong now about 90%. Would deca and prop help it get back to 100%?

[tinytim]

well.... in a way it helps your bio chemistry use the protien more efficently .....so you would recover faster.....

but befor getting more into this ......first what are your stats

age weight training exp....wieght .......body fat %

cycle exp???

the more you let us know the more people at FG can help
TT

[71olds442]

Absolutely NOT. if you take steroids while injured, youre most likely just going to end up injuring yourself more.

[Gymratforlife]

Nothing will heal u like proper rest bro.

[Governor]

Originally posted by 71olds442
Absolutely NOT. if you take steroids while injured, youre most likely just going to end up injuring yourself more.

For the most part yes. It has to do with interaction of cortisol production.

[cbr929]

How to increase collegen synthesis!! (i.e. - strengthen those tendons and ligaments)
originally posted by AnimalMass on competitivemuscle.com

While injecting test increases protein syntesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen syn while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.

Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.

You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.

Deca, Equipoise, Anavar, and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.

While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood

Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:

Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days

Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.

GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.

Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS -- the decision is up to you.

AnimalMass

[71olds442]

if you have a pulled muscle... hurt tendon.. or anything else. taking anabolic steroids and gaining lots of strength will have more negative effects than positive IMO. the post about collagen is written on how to prevent steroid related injuries... not heal injuries. do you think doctors would just prescribe steroids instead of making people get surgeries to fix injuries? shit i know someone who dislocated his shoulder... should he fire his doctor for not insisting steroid treatment instead of surgery?

[lipperlanni]

weight: 200 age: 20 workout experience: 5 years body fat: 8%
first cycle

[lipperlanni]

hey buddy i injured it 4 months ago and its as recovered as it can get. who sayd anything bout takin steroids when injured

[cbr929]

Originally posted by 71olds442
if you have a pulled muscle... hurt tendon.. or anything else. taking anabolic steroids and gaining lots of strength will have more negative effects than positive IMO. the post about collagen is written on how to prevent steroid related injuries... not heal injuries. do you think doctors would just prescribe steroids instead of making people get surgeries to fix injuries? shit i know someone who dislocated his shoulder... should he fire his doctor for not insisting steroid treatment instead of surgery?

he said he was 90% and wondering if there were any AAS that would help get back to 100%

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood

[lipperlanni]

Hey thanks man thats exactly what I needed to know.