Deca/Cyp. Cycle for a beginner?

[malitz]

in either cycle, run the nolva for 10 mgs ed the entire length of the cycle and throughout PCT... you will need both nolva and clomid for pct... and dont run the test at any less than 400 mgs every week...

if you're not looking for explosive gains, dont run the deca, as it is highly anabolic as compared to the testerone. your first cycle will yield the greatest gains to dosage ratio... so choose it wisely...

Well, that's exactly the issue at hand. I'm not looking for explosive gains (ie. 25+ pounds). However, I don't want to gain 15 lbs pounds and then end up losing half of it. Ideally, I'd like to be able to *keep* 10lbs after my cycle, provided that I continue training hard and adhering to a strict diet (both of which I currently do very diligently). 15 would be great, but I'd be happy with 10 lean, retainable pounds.

I understand that certain cycles will give optimal weight gains, but those results do not reflect my personal goals. Now, given my goals, would you still use the same amounts or would you drop them a little?

Oh, there's one more issue that I'd like to clear up: I'm going to be playing soccer this summer, so I need to be in good cardiovascular condition. If I'm on gear, is it a bad idea to do intense cardio twice/week? Game day is obviously intense cardio, and then I was planning 1 intense 30-40 min. session during the week. Comments?

Thanks to all who have replied, this thread has helped me out a great deal.

[malitz]

... thoughts anyone... ?

Actually, I'll throw in another question I have:

Is mixing different kinds of Deca a bad idea? A friend of mine has half a cycle of Organon Deca, but my source can only get QV for me. Is this a no-no?

[malitz]

Can anyone help out with those questions? This isn't meant to come across as demanding but I'm hoping to place an order really soon and I'm hoping to have these issues clarified.

[gumbotong]

Bro Deca is Deca.

As long you as you are shooting the same amount your OK.

As in if you have 200mg/ml deca and 400mg/ml deca you would need 1ml of the 400 or 2ml of the 200.


As lond as its deca and not a fast acting deca like npp your good to go. The same goes for test and all other aas.




GT

[mick-G]

Originally posted by jack hust
here is what i would do
test cyp 500 mgs a week 1-12
deca 300-400 mgs a week 1-10
dbol 30 mg ed week 1-4
pct of clomid and nolva
.25 mcg of ldex ed till you finish pct

This is good. I would add hcg at 500IU twice a wk throughout cycle. The deca can shut you down even though the test should help.