Oral vs. Inject Advice

[TestRip7]

allright bros, here it is finally

week 1-10 500mg Enath/week
week 1-4 35mg d-bol day (might bump to 40 if 35 doesnt seem like enough)
week 6-12 50mg winstrol/day

my question is about the winstrol. I wanted to do injects at the above dosage but im haveing a hard time getting some legit liquid winny. I know that i can get good oral winny, but to take it for those six weeks so soon after the d-bol seems alot for the liver. I will already be takeing ALA and milk thistle from day one, but im worried about my liver values. It will be my first time for d-bol, and oral winny if i decide to take it.
any advice?

[jamesbrosky]

winny is 17aa in liquid or tab so livier toxicity is an issue either way.

[jamesbrosky]

why not just skip the dbol?
or maybe put a few more weeks into your cycle to add time for liver recovery in between the two 17aa anabolics.

[TestRip7]

I knew that winstrol itself is liver toxic, but i heard somewhere that when you inject it it only passes through the liver once but when taken orally it passes twice.
***i dont want to get rid of the dbol b/c im using it to jumpstart the enath.****

[TestRip7]

come on guys,
I know you can help.

[jipped genes]

but i heard somewhere that when you inject it it only passes through the liver once but when taken orally it passes twice.



the drug passes through the liver over and over. the liver is always filtering. i would do the d-bol at 35 mg ed 1-4 and the winny 50 mg ed 8-12. that gives you more time between 17aa gear be sure to use liver de-toxifiers from beginning through pct.

[71olds442]

no matter what it is liver toxic. you may cut out 1x through if you inject, even that is questionable, but either way its liver toxic. youre going to do 11wks of orals.. thats too much IMO. why not substitute fina for the winny. you wont hurt your liver and it will give you the lean muscle youre lookin for. plus it will save you money

[TestRip7]

what doses should i do if i run the fina instead of the winstrol? Would nolva and maybe some tribulus be enough for pct for this cycle?

[lord humongous]

Run the Tren at 75mg ED...you will like it much more than winny. Nolv with Trib is fine for PCT.

[TestRip7]

should I start the tren at the sime time that i was going to start the winny and run it for that same amount of time at 75 mg ed. Is nolva and trib going to be enough for pct after the test dbol and tren. Should i use any HCG?

[SilverbackGorilla]

You can drink injectable winny right??

[TestRip7]

yes, you can drink winny. It is almost just as effective as injecting it some say.

[SilverbackGorilla]

Testrip---Assuming price would be the same, would pills be better you think?

[TestRip7]

imo, I always go with injectable winny. Both are liver toxic to some extent, but i always try to stay away from the orals if possible. Others will swear that injectable winny works better than orals but i think that it depends on the individual.