whats the minimum dose for ANAVAR to be effective?

[georgie24]

lets hear it bro's. i never done var before,however i will be taking test @300 mg week

[mick10-07]

I wouldn't go lower then 25mg. I know some guys who have run lower, but the results weren't there.

[Madmax]

id up the test to 400mg per week and start the var at or around 40mg per day....MM

[HungarianBeast]

Yes, what MM said. Anavar is pretty expensive considering the doses that must be used.

[FUZO]

40MGS A DAY

[new231]

40mg a day, not 40mg a week like MM said.

[Josh]

Originally posted by HungarianBeast
Yes, what MM said. Anavar is pretty expensive considering the doses that must be used.

You can run 50mg ED for 8 weeks for under $300 bucks anymore... I would run 50mg ED if you can afford it, JMO -J

[latimer99]

if it is spa, then 25-30mgs is good. anything else i say 40mgs.

[bigpopapump]

40-50mg

[JohnnyB]

I used 20mg and liked it, but asked for the lowest effective dose 15mg. I have a couple of studies showing this. I'm going to say these wrer more then likely done using BTG, here's 1

Anavar at 15mg

Short-term oxandrolone administration stimulates net muscle protein synthesis in young men.

Sheffield-Moore M, Urban RJ, Wolf SE, Jiang J, Catlin DH, Herndon DN, Wolfe RR, Ferrando AA.

Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch, and Shriners Burn Hospital for Children, Galveston 77550, USA. melmoore@utmb.edu

Short term administration of testosterone stimulates net protein synthesis in healthy men. We investigated whether oxandrolone [Oxandrin (OX)], a synthetic analog of testosterone, would improve net muscle protein synthesis and transport of amino acids across the leg. Six healthy men [22+/-1 (+/-SE) yr] were studied in the postabsorptive state before and after 5 days of oral OX (15 mg/day). Muscle protein synthesis and breakdown were determined by a three-compartment model using stable isotopic data obtained from femoral arterio-venous sampling and muscle biopsy. The precursor-product method was used to determine muscle protein fractional synthetic rates. Fractional breakdown rates were also directly calculated. Total messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) concentrations of skeletal muscle insulin-like growth factor I and androgen receptor (AR) were determined using RT-PCR. Model-derived muscle protein synthesis increased from 53.5+/-3 to 68.3+/-5 (mean+/-SE) nmol/min.100 mL/leg (P < 0.05), whereas protein breakdown was unchanged. Inward transport of amino acids remained unchanged with OX, whereas outward transport decreased (P < 0.05). The fractional synthetic rate increased 44% (P < 0.05) after OX administration, with no change in fractional breakdown rate. Therefore, the net balance between synthesis and breakdown became more positive with both methodologies (P < 0.05) and was not different from zero. Further, RT-PCR showed that OX administration significantly increased mRNA concentrations of skeletal muscle AR without changing insulin-like growth factor I mRNA concentrations. We conclude that short term OX administration stimulated an increase in skeletal muscle protein synthesis and improved intracellular reutilization of amino acids. The mechanism for this stimulation may be related to an OX-induced increase in AR expression in skeletal muscle.

JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

The other 1

Anavar at 15mg with high protien diet.

Combined effects of hyperaminoacidemia and oxandrolone on skeletal muscle protein synthesis.

Sheffield-Moore M, Wolfe RR, Gore DC, Wolf SE, Ferrer DM, Ferrando AA.

Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston 77550, USA. melmoore@utmb.edu

We investigated whether the normal anabolic effects of acute hyperaminoacidemia were maintained after 5 days of oxandrolone (Oxandrin, Ox)-induced anabolism. Five healthy men [22 +/- 3 (SD) yr] were studied before and after 5 days of oral Ox (15 mg/day). In each study, a 5-h basal period was followed by a 3-h primed-continuous infusion of a commercial amino acid mixture (10% Travasol). Stable isotopic data from blood and muscle sampling were analyzed using a three-compartment model to calculate muscle protein synthesis and breakdown. Model-derived muscle protein synthesis increased after amino acid infusion in both the control [basal control (BC) vs. control + amino acids (C+AA); P < 0.001] and Ox study [basal Ox (BOx) vs. Ox + amino acids (Ox+AA); P < 0.01], whereas protein breakdown was unchanged. Fractional synthetic rates of muscle protein increased 94% (BC vs. C+AA; P = 0.01) and 53% (BOx vs. Ox+AA; P < 0.01), respectively. We conclude that the normal anabolic effects of acute hyperaminoacidemia are maintained in skeletal muscle undergoing oxandrolone-induced anabolism.

JohnnyB

[6p6]

JonnyB those are great posts bro....nice to debunk the high dose anavar issue....although I'd still go with 30mg/ed or more...

[JohnnyB]

Originally posted by 6p6
JonnyB those are great posts bro....nice to debunk the high dose anavar issue....although I'd still go with 30mg/ed or more...

I hear ya, I used 20mg on my last one but will use 25 or 30mg on the next 1.

JohnnyB

[bdtr]

I used 40mg a day last time i used it and hated it. I'm giving it another shot at 120mg a day.

[JohnnyB]

CJWolf ran it at 100mg with 100mg of primo ed, he seemed to like it.

JohnnyB