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**PL456** · 02-08-2004, 09:57 PM

Personally, I wouldnt ever mess with that stuff...and I really wouldnt mess with it out of date..JMO. I mean, youre playing around with your endocrine system anyway, why increase the risk with out of date stuff?

**AZ1** · 02-08-2004, 10:08 PM

I'm not necesarily recommending using it but i have a friend who is currently using some he got from mex and bought it w/out cheking dates-dumbass- his expired 9-03 and he's using it now and it works just like fresh stuff. probably depends how old it is and if it was kept refridgerated the whole time as slin can be kept out for up to 28 days according to the manufacturer. so if u must do it try a little first and work your way up. even if you are a past user.

**71olds442** · 02-08-2004, 10:37 PM

check your PM's, i sent you one

**71olds442** · 02-08-2004, 10:52 PM

hey before you do anything... post what you plan to do for a cycle. and make sure your diet is PERFECT! you WILL get fat fast if you take insulin and dont eat perfect...

**6p6** · 02-09-2004, 12:05 AM

common guys he's asking a question so lets try and help him because he's probably going to use it no matter what we say...

bro, your diet needs to be right on...well at least for about 4 hours prior to taking it (for digestion time of fats in the system) and about 4-5 hours post humalog injection. In the hours after injection consume mass quantities of good carbs, sugars (sucrose, and dextrose are preferred). Don't shy from chugging a soda if you start feeling hypo!

AND start your dose off low until you see how you react. I make great gains with 3-6 iu after workout.

**Endless** · 02-09-2004, 01:48 AM

thanks for the advice, i just wanted to be sure about trying out, out dated stuff, i've done it before but not the injection kind, but the pill form it helped a little with the pump. i think it was glyburide, it made me tired though and i would just drink kool aid during my workout, I would take 2.5mg's pre workout and another 2.5mg's after work out, i would wait 4 hours after the workout then take it. I have one more question should i use it for pre workout or wait till it's peak effect starts to kick in then do my workout or after workout?

71olds442 well I weigh about 172 i'm 5-11 I don't have that much body fat, but i have more now then to suppose when i was lifting, I'm just starting back up. I plan to carb up most of the time cause i don't want my body to go into shock or anything from my sugar levels dropping, so my diet will cover the essentials as in diet. i plan to cycle it for 6 or so weeks, i'll start slow then build up to higher dosages. Then maybe mix with thyroid pills or anabolics.

**71olds442** · 02-09-2004, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Endless
i would wait 4 hours after the workout then take it. I have one more question should i use it for pre workout or wait till it's peak effect starts to kick in then do my workout or after workout?

i plan to cycle it for 6 or so weeks, i'll start slow then build up to higher dosages. Then maybe mix with thyroid pills or anabolics.

ok... seems like you know whats up with it. just a rule of thumb, 10g sugars for every 1iu of insulin. so if you do 5iu, take down 50g of sugar within an hour. humalog is the best IMO. it is the fastest acting with the shortest half life. going pre workout can be a little more dangerous than post workout. if you get enough sugars in you, youll be fine. the only problem is that you lose some blood sugars while working out anyway, so if you go preworkout shots, id increase the sugar a bit. i would only go 4 weeks with it, then take 4 off. insulin and testosterone is probably one of the best things for mass gain (for me anyway) i love it. im about to start a cycle with the two myself.... good luck.

**bigpopapump** · 02-09-2004, 01:50 PM

Insulin is a protein. If it is out dated then its dead. Thats why it has to be kept in the cold.

**SMILEY FACE** · 02-09-2004, 03:47 PM

first of all, i would NOTuse humalog, use humalin r, much faster and will get out of ur system, and if u are not ready to do don't. either if u mess up, u will die or u will fell under hypo (coma) or u can become a diabetic for the rest of ur life.
take some times before u do it.
take care .
big mike

**Juicemonkey101** · 02-09-2004, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by big_mike1979
first of all, i would NOTuse humalog, use humalin r, much faster and will get out of ur system, and if u are not ready to do don't. either if u mess up, u will die or u will fell under hypo (coma) or u can become a diabetic for the rest of ur life.
take some times before u do it.
take care .
big mike

No bro... Humalog peaks much faster than Humalin R! I would recommend using Humalog. I use both but am very expierenced with slin. I think 8-10 iu's pw is a great dose. Gone as high as 30 iu's pw and didnt get any more gains except fat!!

**SMILEY FACE** · 02-09-2004, 05:28 PM

man, humalog, will last 24 hours, all day, and u wikll never know when u can fall in a coma, u have to eat right and take carbs and sugar.
be carefull

**Turkish** · 02-09-2004, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by big_mike1979
man, humalog, will last 24 hours, all day, and u wikll never know when u can fall in a coma, u have to eat right and take carbs and sugar.
be carefull

Jesus please do not give advice regarding insulin anymore.

**SMILEY FACE** · 02-09-2004, 05:58 PM

turshik:
what a fuck are u taling about, why do u wanna give teh kid humolg, it is a slow releae/
what do u know about slin, what are u trying 2 say ?????
speak up please and second of all, without mentioning names, i deal with pro BB, and tehy tell me what 2 do without harming myself.
i only answered teh kid queston, that humalin R, is faster and will leave his sytem quicker tahn humolog.
tell the kid that slin is dangerous to play with, unless if u are pro and know what are u doing, but i'am not a proooooo, but guarentee 3 tiems bigger than ur tiny ass