Is Gyno reversible?

[The SaGe]

i think im starting to get it, around my nipples r a little puffy, but no pain etc... im using liquidex everyday, i thought that was suppose to block the gyno from occurring, any suggestions on dosage and what i should do about my cycle, im currently just running 500mg test enthalate a week, i finished the dbol about a week and a half ago

also should i be taking the L-dex at a scheduled time everyday?

[AZ1]

at 170lbs your body doesn't need 500mgs of test w/ dbol. I promise. Im 5'9" as well and i fluctuate 180-185 @ 9% and i go to the doc and get tested and at 300/wk of test my free test levels are at superhuman levels. and if the dex isnt working for you, try aromasin I have used both as i am very gyno prone, i cant use dbol at all without being sore as hell and very puffy in a few weeks. Aromasin works better for me. Oh and the puffiness will go away when your estradiol levels drop, sometimes when on, i have a pea-marble sized lump that feels hard but everything shrinks back down till it looks totally normal and the lump gets softer and softer till u cant feel it anymore, so dont worry just consider lowering your dose and throwing in something that doesnt aromatize next time. Honestly before i tried aromasin i had one cycle where i was very sore and puffy the whole time w/ dex, nothing got larger and when over, it all went away. so if u dont wanna spend the money on the the aromasin just closely monitor for lumps. and DO NOT let them get bigger. Just imagine, if your estrogen levels are that high, your test levels are higher, cuz that estradiol used to be test

[jsjs24]

No it's not reversible, but jump on some nolvadex at about 60 or 80mg ed for a few days, then drop it to 40mg for a few until all symptoms are gone, and 20mg throughout cycle. And the test is something you will always want to run, it's not that bad for gyno if you just run some nolv with it. And you should take anti-e's at the same time everyday imho.

[71olds442]

arimidex/liquidex has a long enough half life that you can take it EOD if you want. so that is not the problem. however, when did you start taking the liquidex? you need to start it at the beginning before they start to aromatise. if that happens, you need to use nolvadex. and JS' advice about that is right on. and no, you cannot reverse it once the gyno is actually present.

[The SaGe]

ok, i baisically started taking the Liquidex halfway through the dbol, so say about week 2 to 3,

so if i have gyno, Ldex wont help me now, only nolva will?

[71olds442]

well liquidex prevents the steroid from amotising. nolvadex blocks the receptors that estrogen binds to. so once it has started to aromatise, the liquidex wont help that

[The SaGe]

exscuse my language, shitzz, is a little puffyness expected, maybe from holding water or just from using etc....

[orion76]

do your nipples get erect and hard?

[superdog]

Originally posted by orion76
do your nipples get erect and hard?

Only when I think of you Orion...

:p

[TSR1969]

Originally posted by superdog
Only when I think of you Orion...

:p

LOL, and it prolly depends if he is wearing something that makes him feel sexy

[Massive1]

GYNCOMASTIA


Background: Gynecomastia is a benign enlargement of the male breast resulting from proliferation of the glandular component of the breast.

Medical Care and Treatment:

* surgical treatment might be considered.

* * Clomiphene, an antiestrogen, can be administered on a trial basis at a dose of 50-100 mg PO every day for up to 6 months. About 50% of patients achieve partial improvement in breast size, and about 20% of patients might note complete resolution. Figures vary with the type and duration of gynecomastia. Side effects are rare and include visual problems, skin rash, and nausea.

* Tamoxifen, an estrogen antagonist, is effective for recent onset and tender gynecomastia when used in doses of 10-20 mg PO twice daily. Up to 80% of patients note partial-to-complete resolution of gynecomastia within 3 months. Nausea and epigastric discomfort are the main side effects.

* Other drugs used less frequently include danazol and testolactone.

* Danazol, a synthetic derivative of testosterone, inhibits pituitary secretion of LH and FSH, which decreases estrogen synthesis from the testicles. Dose used for gynecomastia is 200 mg PO twice daily. Complete resolution of breast enlargement has been reported in 23% of cases. Side effects include weight gain, acne, muscle cramps, fluid retention, nausea, and abnormal liver function tests.

* Testolactone, a peripheral aromatase-inhibitor, has been used with varying success rates (up to 40% decrease in size) in doses of 150 mg PO 3 times per day for 6 months. Nausea, vomiting, edema, and worsening of hypertension have been reported with its use.

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