I need an opinion from the more experienced crowd.....

[GreyGooseShots]

Originally posted by njjuicer
deca and eq the same? i hoep this is a pranks cuz if not id keep rresearchign bro u way off

OMG............ they are not the same chemical....... they give similar results thast my freaking point

[njjuicer]

similar results? not for me

[GreyGooseShots]

Originally posted by njjuicer
similar results? not for me

well what kind of results did you get from each......... I would like to know

[njjuicer]

dec ai tned to put sum water on eq i dont makes me bit mroe veiny

[MYRICK]

Originally posted by GreyGooseShots
Cause I learned everything I know from over here but it seams that all the old guys have kind of left............. but I would like you to proof me wrong cause I would rather be wrong and learn better... But if something sounds not right to me them I'm going to argue back in the end it's a forum for this stuff

All test are the same the only difference is how fast they act and how long.......... EQ and Deca have no difference.......... EQ is a little stronger that’s it..........

BRO U REGISTERED IN JAN 2004 WHAT OLD GUYS DID U LEARN FROM THAT HAVE LEFT CAUSE MOST OF US HAVE BEEN AROUND FROM THE START

[digital]

okay,

you are correct test is test but if you think more infrequent inj are going to reap you the benefit of the prop component in sust,you are incorrect,imho sust has to be shot every 2 day and thats way to much for a second cycle at your weight.

eq and deca are similar in some aspects but there outcome on how your body looks is vastly differant,all these guys are talking from expeirience here,i personally have tried both and will vouch that deca blows me up and lubes my joints,while packing on weight and eq makes me vascular and feel hard as hell,while the scale trickles up.i understand what you are saying about t3,but running 500mg of test enanthate alone will be ample to retain muscle. or prop.

bloat will mask what fat you are losing,if you look in the mirror and you look bloated how can you tell whats fat and whats water?leaving you guessing if you really have dialled your diet in,if what weight you might be losing might actually be muscle,why not see your results as they are happening?

just my 2 cents mate!

[GreyGooseShots]

Originally posted by digital
okay,

you are correct test is test but if you think more infrequent inj are going to reap you the benefit of the prop component in sust,you are incorrect,imho sust has to be shot every 2 day and thats way to much for a second cycle at your weight.

eq and deca are similar in some aspects but there outcome on how your body looks is vastly differant,all these guys are talking from expeirience here,i personally have tried both and will vouch that deca blows me up and lubes my joints,while packing on weight and eq makes me vascular and feel hard as hell,while the scale trickles up.i understand what you are saying about t3,but running 500mg of test enanthate alone will be ample to retain muscle. or prop.

bloat will mask what fat you are losing,if you look in the mirror and you look bloated how can you tell whats fat and whats water?leaving you guessing if you really have dialled your diet in,if what weight you might be losing might actually be muscle,why not see your results as they are happening?

just my 2 cents mate!

There you goooooooooooo finaly this is the stuff im looking for....... well my not looking for the look I will work on the look after all I am looking for is for the T3 and Clen to do their job and get rid of the fat the roids to maintain my muscles and gaing some more..... thats it

[GreyGooseShots]

Originally posted by MYRICK
BRO U REGISTERED IN JAN 2004 WHAT OLD GUYS DID U LEARN FROM THAT HAVE LEFT CAUSE MOST OF US HAVE BEEN AROUND FROM THE START

I used to have a differente SCN and used to ask lots of differente quiestions cuase I was learining and still am

[digital]

but if you have the choice then you might as well run the ones that are going to make you look awesome from word go,dont know about you but when i am dieting down i will use anything that will help keep my motivation primed.

try:
week 1-12 test enanthate 500mg or prop @150mg every second day.
week 1-11 400mg eq
week 9-14 winny @ 50mg ed
clomid pct
nolvadex on hand
run your clen 2 weeks on 2 off(or six weeks if you have super clen)and your t3 ramp up and down 6 weeks.

dont look to gain muscle but purely to stop loss while you get your b/f down,if you do gain a bit count yourself lucky.

[football54]

Originally posted by GreyGooseShots
OMG............ they are not the same chemical....... they give similar results thast my freaking point

MAN THERE IS NO FUCKING POINT IN YOU ASKING FOR ADVISE CUZ YOU WILL NOT TAKE IT SO JUST GET THE FUCK OUT

AND IM DONE WITH THIS BULLSHIT

[jsjs24]

Originally posted by GreyGooseShots
They are similar......... so similar that it's wont make a difference witch one you take... well there is a difference but it's so small that it's irelevant......... that’s my point............... Now lets talk about SUST AND PROP

Ok, we'll talk about sust and prop too, but remember that you still need to learn the difference in eq and deca. Sustanon is a blend of 4 different esters.....long, short, and medium acting. Prop is a short acting ester. Sust needs to be done for a long time....10wks minimum imo, and prop can be done for 6 wks if you want. Prop puts less water on most people, and sust bloats me up as bad as enan or cyp. What else do you need to know bro? Do you want to know if dbol and winstrol are the same? Or maybe anadrol and anavar?

[GreyGooseShots]

Digital why do you think that Sustanon 250 has to be injected every other day???.................. It says here that Sust is usually good at injections of once a week and I will be taking twice a week.......... Please explain...

http://www.anabolicreview.com/drugprofiles.php?steroid=48

[digital]

to make effective use of all the esters within sust,your medium and long esters fine at 2 x week but prop needs to be inj at least every second day to derive full benefit,so its just the effective use of all of it.if you are looking for infrequent inj opt for enanthate or prop on its own.otherwise some of the sust would be a waste,so rather use it when those test dosages are necessary which they arent usually on a cutter and/or 2nd cycle.
i feel that your blood levels also will not be consistant,due to props short action,and i believe the yo yo effect invites higher sides.this is just my humble opinion of sust

[GreyGooseShots]

Originally posted by digital
to make effective use of all the esters within sust,your medium and long esters fine at 2 x week but prop needs to be inj at least every second day to derive full benefit,so its just the effective use of all of it.if you are looking for infrequent inj opt for enanthate .otherwise some of the sust would be a waste,so rather use it when those test dosages are necessary which they arent usually on a cutter and/or 2nd cycle.

Well it's only 60MG a week.......... I don't think I will miss it since im in my second cycle anyway........ the Prop will be there doing it's thing just not all the time....... thats why the rest of the tests are there for

If I take Prop and EQ how much of a difference in muslce gains and fat loss will I see compared to Sust and Deca......... I will be using T3 and Clen with both........ looks are not as important to me as the fat loss........ I could always do a Winny cycle for about 4 weeks just so I get the watter out and harden up a little.......on a scale from 1-10....... what kind of difference will I see between the two cycles.....

[GreyGooseShots]

Originally posted by digital
to make effective use of all the esters within sust,your medium and long esters fine at 2 x week but prop needs to be inj at least every second day to derive full benefit,so its just the effective use of all of it.if you are looking for infrequent inj opt for enanthate or prop on its own.otherwise some of the sust would be a waste,so rather use it when those test dosages are necessary which they arent usually on a cutter and/or 2nd cycle.
i feel that your blood levels also will not be consistant,due to props short action,and i believe the yo yo effect invites higher sides.this is just my humble opinion of sust

Yeah I see but remeber I used sust from PRoline before and I didn't get no sides and I was taking it once a week........ event hought I didn't take much of it I liked it cause it gave me laright gains but not what I would expect from 250MG of sust and 400MG EQ as a first cycle..... by the way I didn't notice any vascularity while on EQ