help me talk a friend out of it

[meat12]

hey guys, quick question. A friend of mine is trying to get big and wants to juice up. Well, problem is he only weighs about 125 lbs soaking wet. I keep telling him its not gonna do anything, but he's not listening, anyone got any facts or ifo i can give him? I keep telling him to put on weight first..but thats all i can think of.

[lxorl]

how old is he?

[meat12]

he's 21 real small guy

[lxorl]

well you have come to the wrong place to talk someone out of steroids. For the most part people here are Pro steroids... all i can say is have him come here and learn how to do it safely before he jumps in and messes himself up.

I am guessing at that weight he has not even been lifting all that long.

[meat12]

yeah he doesnt really even workout at all..not to smsrt of a guy..oh well thanks anyway

[Got Gear?]

It'd be pretty dumb of him to start taking steroids when he hasn't even worked out regularly for a while. Your body can only grow so fast, and for the first while the steroids arn't going to make a difference.

[meat12]

yeah thats what i've been telling him, you have to be at your max size to start, he is just small wanting to get big without any work.oh well he'll find out for himself thank anyways man.

[Majc]

his natural test levels

should still be quite high, so he should grow very easily when he hits the weights. First, start lifting weights at a gym; no cardio; Second, eat, eat, eat; I think sumo wrestlers only eat once or twice a day and then binge, protein shakes and what not. Third, in about 4 years when he has maxed out naturally, look us up.

Majc

[meat12]

yeah i'll tell him tht thanks guys

[FUZO]

LEARN AND EDUCATE ABOUT GEAR BEFORE YOU MAKE THE JUMP

[trip]

Like all of life, "YOU DON'T GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING" same with training, period, end of story.

Once he realizes that, he might finally get something.

Good Luck

It's always a tough one, hate to see people get hopes up and fail, yet that is how most learn

[on_a_mission]

Oh he will most definitely gain bro, the problem is without an foundation he'll lose everthing a couple of weeks after discontinuation of steroids. That will most likely depress him and he will also mostly incurr some type of injury from his muscles growing faster than his tendons and ligaments. That being said tell your friend since he's new to resistance training he could probably put on 10-15 lbs in a couple of months natty, assuming diet is on.

[Berzerker]

Tell him to drink his milk and train.

[Drenten]

People that have busted their asses in the gym and reached their natural physical limit are the only people that should consider using steroids. Steroids should not be used as a shortcut around hard work.

I know so many people that use tons of steroids and are not even as big as what they could attain naturally. The reason is because they rely completely on steroids – without steroids they couldn’t gain an ounce.

If you can’t grow naturally then you haven’t learned the fundamentals and you have no business using steroids.

[PIT]

Gear is only a tool that should be used very wisely.

Diet and training is Key.

Disipline and Dedication is a must!

You have to have your shit together before you start fuckin with your body. Like what Drenton said, need to have the fundamentals down at the least.