what do you guys think?

[NeverSatisfied]

planning a cutter/lean mass, but still tinkering with things. open to suggestions if you guys think i could make changes to make it better:

1-4 20mg m1test ed
1-3 100mg/eod test prop
1-13 500mg/week test eth(first 2 weeks will be 750mg frontload)
1-12 400mg/week eq (first 2 weeks will be 800mg frontload)
10-15 50mg/eod winny

1-17 25mg aromasin eod
clen 2 weeks on, 2 off throughout

pct-hcg, clomid, nolva

i know some bros don't like frontloading but i feel it works for me. i was thinking of using the m1test as a jumpstart. still making changes but this is what i was thinking as of now. any opinons are appreciated. thanx in advance.

[NeverSatisfied]

would anyone use m1t diff

[jipped genes]

thats alot of androgens at the beggining of the cycle. i would just use the prop or maybe the M1T it might do as well.

[bowbow]

I would frontload the eq but not the eth. since your running prop and the m1t. I personally wouldn't use m1t myself just from things I've read. I would run 1 more week of prop.

[Pheedno]

I disagree with bowbow, I like a frontload and jumpstart.

I would put the prop @ 4wks

Don't run HCG with PCT, it inhibits recovery. Run it 500ius every Mon/Tues from wk5-14

[BABY ARNOLD]

hey bro i dont know if youve heard but a lot of people are saying that there liver values go through the roof with the M1t

[NeverSatisfied]

Originally posted by BABY ARNOLD
hey bro i dont know if youve heard but a lot of people are saying that there liver values go through the roof with the M1t

i've heard, but is it that much worse than other orals like a-bombs or d-bol

[orion76]

I'd scrap the m1 and do fina instead.

I don't think frontloading the enan is really necessary if you are using the prop in the first few weeks, but I don't think it would hurt either.

[Gear101]

maybe look at something like this

week1-4 test prop 100 ed
week 1-12 test e 750/500 ew
week 1-12 eq 600/400 ew
week 10-15 tren 75 ed
week 15-17 post cycle

think you'll be happier with the eq at 600 weekly.. and the winny at 50mg eod.. is alittle short of getting good blood levels

but would like to know some back ground info on you.. like where you went to school.. how old you where when you first got layed.. no just joking bro.. how about year of lefting and other cycles you've done..

[NeverSatisfied]

reason i was running winny eod and eq at 400 was due to cost issues. but i changed my mind. i'm gonna drop the prop so i have more funds and buy more winny. figured that i might as well spend a little more and do it right. this will be my third cycle.

6' 240 bf probly bout 20% and currently cutting naturally

my first cycle was:
1-11 test e 600mg/week
1-10 eq 400mg/week

second cycle was:
1-10 150mg prop eod
1-8 75mg fina eod

so now i'm thinking something more along the lines of this:

1-13 500mg/week test e
1-12 600mg/week eq
5-7 20mg M1test
10-15 50mg/ed winny

[NeverSatisfied]

And to answer some posts:

i wanted to try Methyl-1 test because i've heard great reviews. i've ran 1-ad before and my strength went way up. this is supposed to be better. i know M-1test is liver toxic, but i would run extra ala and milk thistle with it. plus it would only be for 3 weeks. I just wanted to see what all the hype was about.

i was also thinking of bumping the test up to 750. a few lbs of lean quality mass would but great, but my main goal is just to cut bodyfat. i read that when dieting, if test dosage gets too high, it becomes hard to lose weight. any input appreciated.

also, i was thinking of adding fina in and running it at 50mg ed weeks 10-15 with the winny, but i felt like it might start to get a little heavy for a third cycle. test, eq, winny, fina sounds like a kick ass cycle, but it might be a little much too soon. let me know what u think.

so my 2 main questions are:

1. if my goal is to cut bodyfat, would running test at 500 or 750 be better?

2. how many would add fina?

thanx for your time

[NeverSatisfied]

bump

[itchybag]

Id cut the winny and add fina