critique my 1st cycle!!!!!

[tinytim]

i agree with jsjs .......5 or 6 weeks on the dbol........youll be fine

[orion76]

Why are you running Arimidex from the start if this is your first cycle?

Taking Arimidex will limit your gains and negatively influence your cholestrol levels, why would you want to do this if you don't even know if you are sensitive to estrogenic side effects?

All you need is to keep some Nolva on hand for when the nipples get itchy.

[Skarn]

Originally posted by orion76
Why are you running Arimidex from the start if this is your first cycle?

Taking Arimidex will limit your gains and negatively influence your cholestrol levels, why would you want to do this if you don't even know if you are sensitive to estrogenic side effects?

All you need is to keep some Nolva on hand for when the nipples get itchy.

I've never had Arimidex hinder gains and I've yet to see anything scientifically show that it can.

Just my opinion....

Skarn

[HungarianBeast]

Looks good...and smart. Stay safe and grow

[jsjs24]

Originally posted by orion76
Why are you running Arimidex from the start if this is your first cycle?

Taking Arimidex will limit your gains and negatively influence your cholestrol levels, why would you want to do this if you don't even know if you are sensitive to estrogenic side effects?

All you need is to keep some Nolva on hand for when the nipples get itchy.

I agree with Skarn, and why do you think he is taking it to prevent gyno? Most people like myself take it to keep off bloat. Orion bro, you have some damn good opinions and advice at times but this one I'm not with you on. My gains have been excellent with the use of adex. Dbol doesn't even bloat me up much when using adex.

[murph0110]

thanks guys... im gonna start the d-bol and if have hair concerns will quit that....

js i know i need more time in gym 1st and i am still thinking this out will make decision shortly.... orion gonna stick with arimidex and see how it goes for bloat concerns...

will keep u guys updated...

[orion76]

Skarn, estrogen helps you bulk up faster and keeps bad cholestrol in check, this is a scientific fact!

jsjs24, of course you will make good gains with arimidex but they should be slightly better without. There is nothing wrong with taking arimidex but some people don't need it, and if you take it on your first cycle you will never know if you really need it or not. This stuff aint cheap, and since murph is only 174 lbs a little bloat shouldn't really bother him, it may even motivate him as it will make him look bigger on his cycle.

Personally I do most of my cycle without an aromatase inhibitor and start it 4 weeks before the end of my cycle so my estrogen levels will be low when I start PCT. Estrogen sides never really bothered me and I could not have known this if I had used arimidex during all my cycles.

It is my humble opinion that estrogens are beneficial on a bulker and the possible side effects it can cause are not that bad that it is not worth experimenting with how much of it you can handle.

[jsjs24]

I see your point Orion. I have done cycles without and I bloat up BAD.....I love the ldex. But I do understand you better now.

[orion76]

If you bloat bad then you definitely need some arimidex, don't want to walk around looking like the Michelin man

Cool avatar btw

[Skarn]

Estrogen helps you bulk up faster? I've never heard that! Ok, yes, I know you get get estrogen related fat, but if that's the bulk you are talking about, I don't want it!

Skarn

[LOCO]

perfect! just make sure u stick to it... workouts/diet/sleep!

[orion76]

Originally posted by Skarn
Estrogen helps you bulk up faster? I've never heard that! Ok, yes, I know you get get estrogen related fat, but if that's the bulk you are talking about, I don't want it!

Estrogens improve glucose utilization, may stimulate growth hormone release and upgrade androgen receptors so that anabolic and androgenic hormones can exert a greater effect.

Blocking estrogens should only be done if you feel that its side effects are worse than its possible benefits, which is growing more muscle on your cycle.