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    ok guys,im ready to do my 2nd cycle. Last time i took 250mg of enanthate week and 150mg of prop.The prop i took mon,wed,fri @50mg. and the enath. wed@250mg

    I had a problem with acne that i would like to avoid.

    Obviously everyone is different,but does anyone see a problem with just shooting 100mg of prop eod for 8 weeks?

    Im guessing the acne was from unstable blood levels and maybe the fact it was QV.
    I know one thing the prop was goodi loved,shit worked fast.felt it good at day 10. thats at only 50mg's 3x a week!

    Do people ususally get more acne from short ester or long?

  • #2
    If you don't mind sticking yourself, then go for it. The ester of test really doesn't have much to do with how much acne you'll get. Test is a heavy androgen and most likely the ester won't have anything to do with how much or how little acne you get (although fluctuations in levels can possibly cause a bit of an increase).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by HeHateMe
      If you don't mind sticking yourself, then go for it. The ester of test really doesn't have much to do with how much acne you'll get. Test is a heavy androgen and most likely the ester won't have anything to do with how much or how little acne you get (although fluctuations in levels can possibly cause a bit of an increase).
      i don't mind sticking myself eod. I want to do a test only cutter and im too impatient to wait for a long ester to work.
      Is eod day of prop frequent enough to have stable blood levels.?
      Im sure 350mg a week of good prop will be plenty.
      Its just that i dont see many people doing prop only cycles.
      I might do another right before the summer and throw in some fina or winny.

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      • #4
        Try some acne precautions like showering 2-3 times a day, use a good soap like clinique extra strength or an antibacterial bar of some sort, and use a topical ointment that contains 10% benzoil peroxide. Some people get acne no matter what. For me, I'm prone to it but I stay pretty cleared up by doing those things and taking my antibiotic. When I was younger I broke out bad off a test only cycle and I blame the brad of test....it was brovel. I could be wrong but it seems that I do not break out nearly as bad when I use a higher quality test like schering. I would try to stay away from the mexican stuff and maybe get some human grade instead if you can. I don't know about 350....that's less than your last one, I'd do 150 eod. Prop only is fine though.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jsjs24
          Try some acne precautions like showering 2-3 times a day, use a good soap like clinique extra strength or an antibacterial bar of some sort, and use a topical ointment that contains 10% benzoil peroxide. Some people get acne no matter what. For me, I'm prone to it but I stay pretty cleared up by doing those things and taking my antibiotic. When I was younger I broke out bad off a test only cycle and I blame the brad of test....it was brovel. I could be wrong but it seems that I do not break out nearly as bad when I use a higher quality test like schering. I would try to stay away from the mexican stuff and maybe get some human grade instead if you can. I don't know about 350....that's less than your last one, I'd do 150 eod. Prop only is fine though.
          Yeah im going to try and get some human grade shit this time,
          When i felt it good last time in less than 2 weeks u think it was because it was a combo of the prop and enanthate?
          My friend did not get shit off the enathate so i figure it was the prop that was giving me most of the gains.
          Although i did get bloated as fuck,which i hope to avoid by using just the prop and l-dex if i need to.,
          i'll probably bump it up to 125 or 150 eod.

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          • #6
            this kinda goes against the grain because test is test with an ester attatched for this disscusion. props half life is so short that it prevents you from having massive doses nthe body. if you shoot 100mg ed of prop with a 2 day half life and 100mg ed of enth or cyp with a 2 week half life. at the end of the 2 weeks you will have exponetially less active test with the prop which IMO will lead to less acne and less sides. my last cycle i did 100mg ed of prop and have done 750 mg of enth before and did have much less sides from the prop. sorry for the long drawn out explanation but its the only way i could figure it. if i am wrong so be it but i dont think so.
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            • #7
              If i dont get any acne from the prop i will be pumped.
              I just hope eod day is enough for stable blood levels.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by whitetail
                If i dont get any acne from the prop i will be pumped.
                I just hope eod day is enough for stable blood levels.
                i prefer ed but eod will work. get some sterile oil from RK and cut the prop when you inject otherwise it hurts like a *****. if you didnt know already.
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                • #9
                  I WOULD GO EITHER 100 ED OR 150 EOD AND LIKE JIPPED SAID CUT IT

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                  • #10
                    There is nothing wrong with only shooting prop but your test levels will be much more stable shooting enantate.

                    It is exactly this slow buildup of enantate that you don't like that will make you have less acne.

                    If your priority is avoiding acne then enantate is the better choice.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by whitetail
                      If i dont get any acne from the prop i will be pumped.
                      I just hope eod day is enough for stable blood levels.
                      Eod if fine, that's how I use it. The prop is definately what you felt two wks into your last cycle. As for your friend not getting shit off the enan....well, if he was using 250 a wk like you were then it probably wasn't enough.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by orion76
                        There is nothing wrong with only shooting prop but your test levels will be much more stable shooting enantate.

                        It is exactly this slow buildup of enantate that you don't like that will make you have less acne.

                        If your priority is avoiding acne then enantate is the better choice.
                        well, avoiding acne is a high priority, but if u see my last cycle compared to the one i plan on"150mgprop eod"
                        Its definetly a major improvement as far as stable blood levels go.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jipped genes
                          i prefer ed but eod will work. get some sterile oil from RK and cut the prop when you inject otherwise it hurts like a *****. if you didnt know already.
                          actually for my 1st i cut everything with a little sterile oil.
                          no pain at all. I got all my liquid meds from Pu**NP*se.
                          I know there not a sponsor of the board but they did not have what i needed at the time.

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