With a simple cycle of Test. Enath. at 500 mg every week for 11 weeks a good diet, training and proper pct. How much can one expect to keep as far as gains go. This would be my second cycle and only first cycle with aromatizable steroids. Ive done plenty of research on this forum and know what I need to do but im concerned about how much of the gains that I can actually keep after im off.
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bro, this is a hard question to answer, especially when we do not know anything about you (stats). Also, everyone is different. Hell, you may gain one pound or 30 pounds (although both unlikely). No one can tell you how much you are going to gain. YOu are going to have to find out for yourself."Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
- Joseph Stalin
Power perceived is power achieved.
Unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.
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It will vary from person to person. There are so many variables---body type, sensitivity to steroids, training, rest, nutrition, post cycle therapy, etc. that it's hard to attach a number to it.
What did your first cycle consist of and what type of gains did you experience?
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Originally posted by HeHateMe
damn...
saturn n governor you boys are quick!
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
- Joseph Stalin
Power perceived is power achieved.
Unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.
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I was just mainly concerned with how much of my gains, whatever they may be, that I could keep once I get off of the cycle. My source for gear told me that the Test. works great while you are on it, but once you get off you will lose most all of your gains. I think he is full of shit, but I wanted to see what the vets. had to say. Thanks bros.
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Originally posted by TestRip7
I was just mainly concerned with how much of my gains, whatever they may be, that I could keep once I get off of the cycle. My source for gear told me that the Test. works great while you are on it, but once you get off you will lose most all of your gains. I think he is full of shit, but I wanted to see what the vets. had to say. Thanks bros.
Do proper PC and continue to train/eat/rest/supplement properly and you will be fine. You may be feeling a bit down in clmoid/nolva and a little after, but just stick with it and you will have some good keepable gains. YOu will also lose waterweight afterwards. DOnt mistake that for loast gains. Id say you can keep anywhere form 50-80% of your gains depends on how your body adapts and if you stick with it."Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
- Joseph Stalin
Power perceived is power achieved.
Unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.
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Suffice to say gains WILL level off to a degree, and you will eventually lose SOME of your gains. When I hear some people claim that they keep all their gains, I just shake my head. It's just not reality. With proper PCT and nutrition you can maintain a good deal though.
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first cycle was winstrol injects. 50 mg eod for 6 weeks. Gains were solid and retained after cycle. Total gains was between 5-6 lbs. My current stats are 6'2" 187lbs,
16"arms (cold)
42"chest
I know that some of the gains while on cycle will be water bloat and that I will lose these once i cycle off which is fine.
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Bastard, you beat me again!Originally posted by Governor
Do proper PC and continue to train/eat/rest/supplement properly and you will be fine. You may be feeling a bit down in clmoid/nolva and a little after, but just stick with it and you will have some good keepable gains. YOu will also lose waterweight afterwards. DOnt mistake that for loast gains. Id say you can keep anywhere form 50-80% of your gains depends on how your body adapts and if you stick with it.
And I was all over that one, too. I need to take some typing classes!
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One more ? bout pct.
Will the clomid/nolva treatment during pct without any hcg be enough to bring natural test. levels back up to what they were before the cycle.?
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For most people it'll be enough. Plus, you're only using 500mg per week so you should be fine.Originally posted by TestRip7
One more ? bout pct.
Will the clomid/nolva treatment during pct without any hcg be enough to bring natural test. levels back up to what they were before the cycle.?
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Originally posted by HeHateMe
Bastard, you beat me again!
And I was all over that one, too. I need to take some typing classes!
hehehe. :p"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
- Joseph Stalin
Power perceived is power achieved.
Unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.
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