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**jack hust** · 12-08-2003, 03:21 PM

good for you bro please see the doc first that a wonderful idea and it tells me you have your mind in a good direction looks good

**Got Gear?** · 12-08-2003, 03:34 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't bother with the 1-test if your planning on running test anyway. Why bother with a testosterone derivative if your already using the real thing?

Talk to your Doc, but I'd really suggest you wait a couple of years. You only grow when your young, you'll have plenty of time to juice when you stop growing naturally.

**daddy1122** · 12-08-2003, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Got Gear?
Honestly, I wouldn't bother with the 1-test if your planning on running test anyway. Why bother with a testosterone derivative if your already using the real thing?

Talk to your Doc, but I'd really suggest you wait a couple of years. You only grow when your young, you'll have plenty of time to juice when you stop growing naturally.

the reason why i was going to use the 1-test is to harden up the gains i have gotten.. that is what i have read about the 1-test. but if the doc tells me that it would be a major health issue to mess with test right now then i will probably just run the 1-test and 4ad combo..

**Got Gear?** · 12-08-2003, 05:26 PM

Testosterone is testosterone... either form will do the same thing... except 1-test converts to testosterone somewhere around 5%, where Test E is something like 75% test.

I'd to the 1-test and 4ad combo first. See how your results are... if you get good gains stick with it for a while. If not, then consider the good stuff.

**fatsachs** · 12-08-2003, 06:14 PM

I think what you have looks good, but i would add 4 weeks of M-1-test at the beginning to get your cycle started. That way, by the time the enanthate kicks in, you will be finished with the orals and will have already put on some mass. I just got finished with an 8 week M1T/test prop cycle and loved it. Good luck brother.

**NeverSatisfied** · 12-08-2003, 07:12 PM

i used 1-ad at the end (last 4 weeks)of a test/eq cycle and my strength shot up big time. i would recomend it

**pigmeat** · 12-08-2003, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by Got Gear?
Testosterone is testosterone... either form will do the same thing... except 1-test converts to testosterone somewhere around 5%, where Test E is something like 75% test.

I'd to the 1-test and 4ad combo first. See how your results are... if you get good gains stick with it for a while. If not, then consider the good stuff.

I am sorry GG, but 1-test DOES NOT convert to test. In fact it does not convert to anything. It is its own compound. It does not Aromatise either. Maybe you should do a search on it. M1-t would be an excellent addition to your cycle at the end.

**pigmeat** · 12-08-2003, 07:24 PM

Re: Test and M-1-T

Originally posted by daddy1122
i am going to start my first cycle hopefully at the beginning of the new year. After reading up on this Methyl 1-test stuff.. i am thinking about throwing it in at the end of my cycle. so it would look like this.

Test Ethan. @500mgs/wk 1-10
M-1-T @20mg/ed wk 11-14
Clomid @300day 1, 100 day 2-8? 50mg 9-15? after last M-1-T dose
nolv. 20mg after last M-1-T dose

I know that lots of you guys that have read my posts about me being 18 not to use.. but this cycle will only happen after i talk with the endrocrinaligist... so if so what do you guys think about this cycle?

I would run the m-1t weeks 8-11,while the test is still active, as you want to run it with an aas that will aromatise. If you run it 11-14, the test will have cleared your system by the time you start the m-1t.

**pigmeat** · 12-08-2003, 08:03 PM

here is a good link showing the anabolic profile of M-1t, and the diffrence in structure between 1-test, primo, and m-1t

http://anabolicarchive.com/M-1-Tprofile_early.pdf

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