first timer

[orto]

Hello,
need advice on first cycle. I´m 32, 6´1, 160 lbs, around 8% BF. I´ve been lifting for 14y now and I wanna add some more muscles to this bones. I´ve decided to go on AS cycle with Deca and Sust (or Test Enanth). For protection and recovery would take Nolvadex and hCG. I need advice on how much of which, when, which cycle (pyramide, invert diamond). Should I take Clomid and when. I´ve read a lot of literature but I would appriciate addvice anyway.

[alwayzgrowing]

Originally posted by teekahty
400 mg deca
400 mg test enth
run it for 8 or 10 weeks
start post cycle 3 weeks after last shot
you can take nolva all the way through if you wish or just when you need it

good advice up there. make sure you eat more 6-1 160lbz is kinda small bro. you could even do 500mg of thest enanthate for 10weekz, and you will see good gainz.

[jack hust]

just like teekahty said ,you should save the hcg for a stronger cycle

[BigSoda]

At 160 pounds I would 1st eat more calories,as for a cycle
I would go with enanthate over sust,sust only works really well when shot eod.
so I would run
weeks 1-10 deca 400mgs
weeks 1-10 test en 400-500mgs
and clomid after cycle,you probably will not need hcg in my opinion,but keep the nolv on hand.

[BigSoda]

Damn yall fools type fast or something?

[BigSoda]

Originally posted by BigSoda
Damn yall fools type fast or something?

That or as my pops says great minds think alike

[bigjim33]

i would do
test 1-10 500mg/wk(i like keeping it higher than deca)
deca 1-10 300-400mg/wk
keep nolva on hand, you don't need hcg for this cycle IMO
i like clomid for post cycle, but some use nolva....you can ask around about how to do this

[alwayzgrowing]

if you have money to kill, why not use hcg.

[Massive1]

IMO you should get up to about 190 naturally before you start sticking yourself. For 14yrs of training @ 160 that doesn't add up. Get your diet right, gear works of diet too bro.

[bowbow]

I'd deffinitily take a look at your diet and training routine. They have the cycle cover well. Make sure you know how many calories and how much protein you should be taking in.

[orto]

Originally posted by Massive1
IMO you should get up to about 190 naturally before you start sticking yourself. For 14yrs of training @ 160 that doesn't add up. Get your diet right, gear works of diet too bro.

I´ve tried everything to get more muscles (diets, supplements, etc.) but I can´t get more weigh.

[orto]

Originally posted by alwayzgrowing
good advice up there. make sure you eat more 6-1 160lbz is kinda small bro. you could even do 500mg of thest enanthate for 10weekz, and you will see good gainz.

Which type of cycle? Which days? I really am a novice. Thanks!

[alwayzgrowing]

Originally posted by orto
Which type of cycle? Which days? I really am a novice. Thanks!

weeks 1-10 500mg of enanthate



and bro, you gotta get your diet in check. your not eating enough if your only 160. gear wont help if you dont eat correctly