Hey bros.. help me with a first cycle for friend

[FireFighter]

Hey whats up guys,

My buddy wants to try some juice.. Hes never done it before and wants to do a cycle. 5'8, 180lbs, bf% at about 9-10. So hes got some size to him and a good foundation to work with. I was thinking for him just to do a 10-12 week cycle of just test. Like cyp or enanthate. He's just looking to add some mass and power. His diet is pretty good, and so is his training. I was also think about sust. but let me know guys.

[FireFighter]

i was thinking 500 g's of test a week.. lemme know

[jsjs24]

No sust imo because it needs to be shot eod. I think 10wks of test e would be fine. He could do 250 on Mon and 250 on Thurs. Make sure he has anti-e's for possible gyno and pct.

[BossDJ02]

500ml of test enan at 12 weeks is good for a newbie cycle. u could add 30mg od dbol for the first 4 weeks.

[itchybag]

my first cycle was sust every 4 days, and i only had 10 shots. i gained 20 pounds. Im not sure if I agree with the reasoning behind sust eod

[murph0110]

itchy I thought about sust for my upcoming first cycle but some said due to the number of different tests it might be tough on your hormonal system....

murph

[itchybag]

murph

i had no problems with it, like i said i gained 20 pounds and kept them, strength went up too. the only thing ive heard as to why people say to do sust eod is that the propionate only lasts 2 days. i realize this is true which is a waste but there are 3 other compounds in sust that last longer than 2 days. as for being tough on your system, by what do you mean? 'cuz its your 1st time? if its hard on your system because its your first time, why wouldnt it be hard on someone elses whos been doing sauce for years? i love sust, and always keep my gains and all ive ever done was 500 mg a week. if you want a good read, check out the profiles section on anabolicreview.com

[mrsteroids]

FireFighter - all these guys are pretty much pointing you in the right direction. keep in mind that there is more than one right way to do it, as everyone has their own opinion. one reason i'm on this board is to learn from everyone else. in any case, here's my suggestion :
500 mg test per week (sustanon and either test cypionate, or enanthate) for 10 weeks.
200 mg deca starting in week 6 or 7, and keep doing the deca for about 6 to 8 more weeks after the test is finished.
i feel this will give your guy some good mass and he won't lose it all in the end. you could even substitute the deca for 200 mg of EQ instead. hope this helped.

[MYRICK]

ITCHY NOT TO FLAME U BRO BUT I JUST DONT SEE U GAINING 20 POUNDS ON JUST 10 SHOTS OF SUST TAKING A SHOT EVERY 4 DAYS CAUSE LIKE U SAID THERES OTHER COMPOUNDS BUT THOSE OTHER COMPOUNDS DONT HAVE A SERIOUS EFFECT UNTIL ABOUT WEEK 6 AND 10 SHOTS IS ONLY 5 WEEKS

[MYRICK]

Originally posted by mrsteroids
FireFighter - all these guys are pretty much pointing you in the right direction. keep in mind that there is more than one right way to do it, as everyone has their own opinion. one reason i'm on this board is to learn from everyone else. in any case, here's my suggestion :
500 mg test per week (sustanon and either test cypionate, or enanthate) for 10 weeks.
200 mg deca starting in week 6 or 7, and keep doing the deca for about 6 to 8 more weeks after the test is finished.
i feel this will give your guy some good mass and he won't lose it all in the end. you could even substitute the deca for 200 mg of EQ instead. hope this helped.

BRO U NEVER RUN DECA 6 TO 8 WEEKS AFTER TEST UNLESS U WANT UR JIMMY TO GO ON VACATION. WRONG ADVICE BRO

[smalls]

I agree with myrick. I would never suggest deca to a first timer and especially never alone. Alot of people love of, but far too many people have severe problems with it as well. Test alone for a first cycle should be great.

[MYRICK]

SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME MAN ITS ABOUT TIME I GET SOME RESPECT.LOL

[IntensityX]

500 mgs test 1-10
35mgs dbol 1-4(optional)

[LOCO]

Originally posted by BossDJ02
500ml of test enan at 12 weeks is good for a newbie cycle. u could add 30mg od dbol for the first 4 weeks.

agree..... 10 or 12 weeks is fine...
tell him to get some ae's too

[FireFighter]

Thanks alot guys! No probs with the anti e's i'll lead him in the right direction.. we're gonna start our cycle the same time, so it should go over well.. but thanks for all the info bros!