Winstrol solidifying Gains?

[pigmeat]

Originally posted by mrsteroids
ok, i was looking for actual product names bro.

Growth= HGH= human growth hormone

[pigmeat]

Originally posted by mrsteroids
Pig, sorry if this sounds stupid, but i want to make sure i get what you're saying - do you mean tren ? and would tren acetate do the same for me ? what about EQ ?

Yup! Tren,(fina) is my favorite to run at the end of a long bulker.

[orion76]

Yeah what pigmeat said.

[mrsteroids]

thanks everyone for your replies - i really appreciate it. can anyone tell me how much tren would be good to run towards the end of the bulking cycle ?

[mrsteroids]

Originally posted by jsjs24
How come so much of the long acting esters...I think you should add some prop in there eod since you have sust...just my 2 cents bro. I think tren, winny, and var are all good choices. I've never used var myself but I intend to try it.

js - do you think what i'm doing is not a good cycle ? aside from doing the prop with it, what are your thoughts about it and why ? please let me know. later.

[jsjs24]

Originally posted by mrsteroids
js - do you think what i'm doing is not a good cycle ? aside from doing the prop with it, what are your thoughts about it and why ? please let me know. later.

Well first of all I need to know what your stats and cycle history are. I don't see the need for 6 different test esters. Sust already has a blend of 4...one being prop which will most likely be wasted. And if you do need to do a gram of test then why are you not throwing in some eq or deca? Imo something should be stacked with the test if you are at the 1 gram range. Let me know where you stand and I will answer you back.

[mrsteroids]

Originally posted by jsjs24
Well first of all I need to know what your stats and cycle history are. I don't see the need for 6 different test esters. Sust already has a blend of 4...one being prop which will most likely be wasted. And if you do need to do a gram of test then why are you not throwing in some eq or deca? Imo something should be stacked with the test if you are at the 1 gram range. Let me know where you stand and I will answer you back.

i've done only 2 cycles previously. one was deca / eq, the other was sustanon only, 500 mg/wk for 8 weeks. i'm 6 ft, 230 lbs currently, with an approx. BF of like 16-18%. i would really like to become massive, like 275, because i am a wrestler, and will be on tv. please let me know what you think, and why you think it. i like to know the reasoning. thanks.

[jsjs24]

Well bro you just don't need a gram of test yet imo. 750mg will do you fine. But if you want to take the sustanon eod that would be 875 a week. Then you would get the best effects out of it since it has prop in it. However, I think you should stack about 750 test with dbol or drol to start and some eq or deca throughout. Here are 2 I would choose from:
Cycle 1
wks 1-4 40mg dbol ed or 50mg drol ed
wks 1-13 750mg test cyp or enan (375 Mon and 375 Thurs)
wks 1-12 600mg eq or 500mg deca
wk 15 start pct nolva/clomid combo and hcg imo

Cycle 2
wks 1-4 40mg dbol or 50mg drol
wks 1-12 250 sust eod (total of 875 a week)
wks 1-12 600mg eq or 500mg deca
wk 15 start pct same as above

[mrsteroids]

Originally posted by jsjs24
Well bro you just don't need a gram of test yet imo. 750mg will do you fine. But if you want to take the sustanon eod that would be 875 a week. Then you would get the best effects out of it since it has prop in it. However, I think you should stack about 750 test with dbol or drol to start and some eq or deca throughout. Here are 2 I would choose from:
Cycle 1
wks 1-4 40mg dbol ed or 50mg drol ed
wks 1-13 750mg test cyp or enan (375 Mon and 375 Thurs)
wks 1-12 600mg eq or 500mg deca
wk 15 start pct nolva/clomid combo and hcg imo

Cycle 2
wks 1-4 40mg dbol or 50mg drol
wks 1-12 250 sust eod (total of 875 a week)
wks 1-12 600mg eq or 500mg deca
wk 15 start pct same as above

well, here's the deal my friend - i do not have any orals, but this is what i have : (plenty of the following)
sustanon
testoviron
testex
deca 200 mg
primobolan

now, with that, can you give me other options that you think would work better for me ? remember, i wanna get massive here.

[jsjs24]

Yea but you better find some anti e's and/or hcg.

wks 1-12 750mg test cyp or enan
wks 1-11 500mg deca
wk 14 pct
be sure to do deca e3d and test 1/2 on mon 1/2 on thurs
If you want this to be a kiiler bulker then I would try to find some dbol, drol, or prop for a kickstart. But this will be fine too. I have done the testovirons at 700mg a week and got huge mass gains but it was all water. I would probably try the cyp or sust depending on the price.