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    hey guys im gonna be starting my new mass cycle pretty soon... heres my PREVIOUS cycle:

    weel 1-8 test enan @500mg
    week 1-8 deca @400mg
    week 1-2 test susp @50mg/day
    week 9-11 test susp @50mg/day
    week 7-11 winny(2mg tabs) @30mg/day
    week 9-14 proviron @25mg/day

    the thing is started this cycle at 67kg peaked at 83kg! gained 16kg...but have lost all of it cause i couldnt work out fr 6mths
    so what do u guys think i should do for my next cycle ? my current weight is back at 67kg
    I was thinkin of doin a 12wk cycle of preferably test enanthate alone keeping the dosage low 250-500mg? cause i read this thread saying that we really didnt need such high doses of juice!

    also i want to keep water retention to a minimum cause i hv a tendency of becomin moonfaced! so will be takin proviron thruout

    what do u guys suggest?
    where i live i hv only sustanon, deca, winny tabs, suspension,enenthate available so please dnt suggest somethin like equipoise or tren fina etc!

    also what about using winny between the period im off test waiting fr clomid therapy so as to keep max gains

  • #2
    use 500 mg test a week with 50mg proviron ed ,300-400mg deca a week hit the whinny at 50mg ed for the last 6 weeks of your cycle make sure to do your clomid 3 weeks after the last shot of deca go for 10weeks in all imo you should be happy with your gains and you could use nolva at 10-20 mg ed or ldex at .25-.50 ed for bloat

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    • #3
      jack i was thinking of losing the deca fr once and staying with test and winny alone fr once and keeping the cycle a bit light(since im only 67kg now!) and more longer instead..using the winny to bridge the gap between test cycle and clomid therapy

      somethin like

      wk1-12 test enanthate @500mg
      wk 11-15 winny @ 32mg/day(2mg tabs) or should i take 50mg ..that would mean taking 25 tablets a day!!! ?

      wk 16 clomid @300mg day 1 followed by 100mg fr 10days,and 50 mg nxt 10days

      wk 1-18 proviron @25mg/day (fr bloat and sex drive)

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      • #4
        i would do this if you want to not use deca:
        test weeks 1-10 at 500mg/wk
        winny weeks 7-12 at 50mg/day(if you can handle all of those pills)
        start clomid after winny ends, and have nolva on hand in case of gyno, or run ldex throughout cycle and clomid. if you have sex drive problems then use the proviron

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        • #5
          bigjim what if i extended the test to 12weeks?? and the winny is in capsules 2mg form would it be ok to swallow so many of those gelatin capsules? ...like 8 caps 3x day?

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          • #6
            you can take that many tabs of whinny ed with no problems i have taken as many as 35 2 mg tabs ed

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            • #7
              what about extendin the test to 12 weeks ?? would it be better or counterproductive?? its very cheap here so i dont mind doing 12weeks.

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