information overload - 1st cycle

[seesamplay]

I live in Costa Rica, so I can basically write my own scrips. I have been trying to do as much research before I start, but there is a lot of conflicting data online - mostly b/c the info comes from people trying to sell product.

I am leaning heavily toward Sustanon 250 (it's $6.5/amp) for 8 weeks (250mg every five days).

I don't know whether to use Nolvadex, HCG or Clomid. I have heard every possible combination. I obviously don't want ***** tits or a shrunken sack - especially after my first time.

I'm 31 and very responsible, so I will stick to whatever seems best.

Thanks

[bigjim33]

Re: information overload - 1st cycle

Originally posted by seesamplay
I live in Costa Rica, so I can basically write my own scrips. I have been trying to do as much research before I start, but there is a lot of conflicting data online - mostly b/c the info comes from people trying to sell product.

I am leaning heavily toward Sustanon 250 (it's $6.5/amp) for 8 weeks (250mg every five days).

I don't know whether to use Nolvadex, HCG or Clomid. I have heard every possible combination. I obviously don't want ***** tits or a shrunken sack - especially after my first time.

I'm 31 and very responsible, so I will stick to whatever seems best.

Thanks

do 500mg/wk of sust for 10 weeks...then 3 weeks after last shot run clomid(300mg first day, 100mg next 10 days, then 50mg for 10 more days). have nolva on hand in case of gyno. small balls happens to most people but comes back with clomid therapy

[Fierce149]

What bigjim said .

[seesamplay]

I would rather error on the side of caution, so I am not too excited about tacking on more. I am willing to though if it makes a profound difference. Am I cheating myself by not adding d-bol and/or deca?

From what I have gathered here, "You never forget your first time."

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by seesamplay
I would rather error on the side of caution, so I am not too excited about tacking on more. I am willing to though if it makes a profound difference. Am I cheating myself by not adding d-bol and/or deca?

From what I have gathered here, "You never forget your first time."

there are plenty of people who have done and gotten great gains off of 500mg/wk of test. i think it will do fine for you. if you wanted more you could add in eq or deca at 400mg/wk for 10 weeks. or you could do dbol the first 4 weeks, but it isn't necessary

[seesamplay]

Thanks for the really good advice. What are the primary differences in HCG and Clomid? Are they basically the same, or is Clomid superior?

One more thing, I have read that taking Nolvadex (10mg/day) throughout the cycle is recommended. I've also heard that Nov. interferes with the Sustanon. Jim, you mentioned waiting until there was puffiness. That's not too late?

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by seesamplay
Thanks for the really good advice. What are the primary differences in HCG and Clomid? Are they basically the same, or is Clomid superior?

One more thing, I have read that taking Nolvadex (10mg/day) throughout the cycle is recommended. I've also heard that Nov. interferes with the Sustanon. Jim, you mentioned waiting until there was puffiness. That's not too late?

clomid is the best for post cycle IMO. you won't need HCG because you're not runing a heavy cycle. if you want you can run nolva at 10-20mg/day to keep bloat away. i said keep it handy if your not going to run it everyday so in case gyno appears(itchy nips, sore nips, lumps, ect.) you will have it. if this is the case then start first day with 80mg, next day 60mg, next day 40mg, then 20mg till it is gone. then you can go with 10mg/day till clomid start, or even through clomid.

[swoll4u]

Re: Re: information overload - 1st cycle

Originally posted by bigjim33
do 500mg/wk of sust for 10 weeks...then 3 weeks after last shot run clomid(300mg first day, 100mg next 10 days, then 50mg for 10 more days). have nolva on hand in case of gyno. small balls happens to most people but comes back with clomid therapy

Perfect

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[seesamplay]

Thanks again for the information. Since I am new to this aspect of weight training, I wanted to get a really good reference book. I was considering Anabolics 2002. I wanted something current, and this looked pretty good at Amazon.com. Has anyone read this? Are there better books out there?

Another beginner question: Should I increase, decrease or keep my cardio the same during my cycle? I am pretty active right now, so I don't want my heart to end up being the muscle that gets the bulk.

[bigjim33]

for bulking i thinkif you wanted cardio...2-3 days a week for 20 min. each time should suffice.

[pigmeat]

you dont need a book as long as you have Fitness Geared!

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by pigmeat
you dont need a book as long as you have Fitness Geared!

true, a lot of the info in the book you can get here plus some....but if you want a book i heard it wassn't too bad

[trip]

Anabolics 2002 is very good helpful reference material to have on hand. I have it and the 2000 version and several others and IMHO it is the best.

Also, down in Latin America you can get Ormiten, which is an anti-estrogen similar to Arimidex and Aromasin, this will keep the bloat away and is also purported to be anti-catabolic, down your way it is cheap as all get out.

Nice job on your research, and Good Luck.

[growing32]

bigjim33 has given you great advice IMO, Keep reading and rereading, double check everything you think you understand. I believe everyone here was feeling similiar to what your feeling going into their first cycle, i felt educated but uncertain for both of mine. Good luck