Need help

[formerUSMC]

Hey bro's,
would proviron taken during a cycle of Sust 250/wk & deca 200/week be enough to combat the chance of gyno? I know that the test could cause it from estogren and the deca from prolactin.
But from what I have read the estogen and prolactin have to work in conjunction(sp?) with each other to cause gyno. If thats not the case could someone shed a little light. Iwould like to run this for 10 weeks. also, i would like to throw in some var. would 10 wks be to long with the var. This is not my first cycle but the first time considering using deca and var. Mostly interested in the joint care with the deca. Would I need to have nolva on hand ?
thanks

[jack hust]

well at the low dose your using of each you will not need to worry about gyno ,sust neds to be used eod bro so you may want to get more sust or get some eanathite or cyp and deca should be run at 400 mg a week ,yes you could run the var all 10 weeks , i would use nolva over proviron

[formerUSMC]

thanks jack. i was thinking of using sust because of the supposedly lower water retention. would you run the nolva with the cycle or use if systoms appear? i guess im just kinda paranoid about gyno. i have used test only with no problems . but the deca kinda spooks me!

[jack hust]

just what crank said

[Skarn]

Originally posted by Crankin'steiN
Also, you should maybe have some proviron on hand just in case of gyno from the deca...... but I doubt at a low dose such as 400mg... you would get it.... better to be safe tho.

He's only doing 200mg/week so I wouldn't worry at all bro.

It would be hard to gain at such a low dose yet alone get any sides...

Skarn

[JohnnyB]

What's your cycle history

JohnnyB

[formerUSMC]

Originally posted by JohnnyB
What's your cycle history

JohnnyB

i have done only 6 cycles and that has been over the span of 12 yrs. first 2 wouldnt even call cycles. 1991 after desert storm #1 alot of us had lost so much weight in the desert that we we to TJ and just started shooting test with no anti-es or any kind of pct . same with 2nd. but luckily no adverse affects except dam hair on my back! didnt learn the proper way untill i was about 30. i used to be a big fan of the strongman look. not the one with the big guts but like johnny perry or someone like that. so i would just do test and work out like a madman. well now im 35 and dont carry the weight as well. knees are shot from all the running in the Corps and football. last cycle was winny and clen for 8 weeks. went from 225 lbs and around15% bf to 205 and about10%bf. like i said i dont carry the weight as well been up as high as 250 before! now im just looking to make pretty much lean gains and strength. and the deca for wore out body parts lol! so if any one has an idea on a cycle for pretty much lean gains and good strength im open to suggestions. thanks. oh yeah im 6ft tall and been lifting for 20 years off and on(man im old!) regular for the last six.

[formerUSMC]

Thanks,Crankin'. I will give that a try. Last test intake was over a year ago and it was at 400mg/wk. Thats as as much as I have ever used. What about var in that mix? Bro, you are right about the winny. But everything is back to normal now. Hurting but not as much. Except my left elbow. Think it might be tendonitis.
Thanks again bro.

[gearedup]

at the low doses you are taking gyno is not a probability, it can always happen but usually not on low doses like you proposed!

[Skarn]

Originally posted by Crankin'steiN
No... read Jack's post and read mine again...... Jack suggested 400mg a week of deca.... and I made comments based on that...

Yes, I saw Jacks and your recommendation, but I was going by what he said he was going to do.

As for cycles, Crank posted a very nice one...the 500 test and 400 deca.

Good luck bro,
Skarn