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Frequently Asked Questions and Facts!
Dont agree with it all, but good read!
1.I'm not yet 21, should I use steroids ?
NO. Plain and simple. Steroids WILL, not may, WILL stunt your growth. They close the epiphysial plates in your bones and stop all possibility of attaining a greater height. Further more using steroids during puberty, when you are dealing with an already very unstable endocrine system can have severe consequences in the long run : Erectile dysfunction (impotence), loss of libido and even infertility ! I assume most men in their late teens and twenties hope to have children some day and lead a long and fulfilling sex life, so steroids before the age of 21 : NO !
If you are a teenager wondering about steroids, heed this advice. Read the boards, absorb the knowledge and learn so you can use them properly when you are old enough. But for your own good steer clear of them now. For once and for all, use your mind, we have nothing to gain or lose by telling you not to use them.
2.Steroids are not magic !
They are merely effective hormonal supplements. They increase the rate of protein synthesis in the body, but to synthsize protein one still needs to take in enough protein and take care of his energy needs with fats and carbs. Those thinking that steroids will get them out of the rut their bad diets have created are sorely mistaken. A steroid user needs a minimum of experience because his diet will take a lot more work than the diet of a natural athlete. We are talking in excess of 25 calories per pound of bodyweight daily, where 18-22 will suffice for a natural. And most can't even make that. Large amount of proteins especially need to be consumed. Upwards of 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight daily. Steroids do not cause growth, they merely speed up the process and stretch it to supra-physiological levels, working with the means they have. And those means are the food you consume.
IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT YOU ATTEMPT TO ATTAIN GROWTH BY PROPERLY ADJUSTING YOUR DIET BEFORE EVEN CONSIDERING STEROIDS !
3.You should not use steroids until you have reached your natural limit.
Well lets say you need to be close to it. This has a lot to do with the previous points and for two reasons. The first being that if you are not near your natural limit, there is no way you tried enough variations in your diet to assume you are ready to use steroids.
The second reason is that if you cannot attain a near natural limit, you simply do not possess the nutritional skills to make steroids work to their maximum. The result being that you will waste a lot of money, get lots of side-effects, but not the gains you were hoping for.
4.What sort of gains should I expect ?
This is a question dependent on too many variable factors and has no answer
5.Do i need something to bring my natural test levels up after a test cycle?
This should go without saying. If you were thinking of asking this question, take it from me, you are not ready to start using steroids. After a cycle of steroids your natural sex hormone levels will be severely suppressed due to a mechanism called negative feedback. To preserve gains and keep a mentally and physically healthy life-style, you need to get your testosterone levels back on line. When a deficit of steroids in the body has occured, it will attempt to make natural testosterone again. But unfortunately steroid levels do not drop off, usually there is an estrogen rebound which prolongs the negative feedback. Estrogen of course will not suffice to keep your gains. So the need of an estrogen antagonist is needed post-cycle, either Clomid (clomiphene citrate) or Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate).
During longer or very suppressive cycles (Deca, long term test, trenbolone) your testicles may begin to shrink heavily due to disuse. this may make it harder to make natural test right off the bat. In such cases it is advised you use HCG as well to bring back the size of the testicles first.
6.When should I use Clomid or Nolvadex for this purpose ? How long and how much ?
This depends first of all on the products used. Specifically what the longest acting product was in teh cycle. If you used only orals or test suspension or winstrol injections, then you need to start Clomid/Nolva therapy immediately afterwards. If short esters like propionate or acetate were used, then start 4-6 days after your last shot. If you use long esters (enanthate, undecylenate, undecanoate, decanoate, enanthate/heptylate, ...) then start therapy 10-14 days after your last shot.
For Clomid start with 150 mg/day for 2 weeks, then 100 mg/day for 2 more weeks. With nolvadex, which should be given preference, start with 50 mg/day for 2 weeks and 25 mg/day for 2 more weeks. In both cases that is 4 weeks.
7.I heard you can drink Injectable winstrol / D-bol. Is this true ? Are the results the same ?
Winstrol (stanazolol) and D-bol (methandrostenolone) are both 17-alpha-alkylated steroids. 17-alpha-alkylation is a structural alteration that allows the steroid to withstand degradation in the liver and makes them orally available. So YES, these steroids can be taken orally.
Note 1 : The efficacy of this method is equal to taking an oral winstrol or D-bol preparation. Usually this is 75-80% of the efficacy one would get when injecting. Most are willing to accept 1/5th less gains or will take 1/5th more of the product because taking it orally is still easier than daily injections
Note 2 : These products are toxic to the liver. When injected they only pass the liver once, so they are a little less toxic. When ingested, only use them for 6 weeks on end and then stay away from them for 14 weeks. This goes for all 17AA steroids.
Note 3 : Not all injectable steroids can be taken orally, only 17AA steroids (D-bol, Winstrol, Anavar, Anadrol) and 1-methylated substances (Proviron and Primobolan). Other injectables will yield only 4-6% of their injectable capacity
8. I'm planning a cycle with only D-bol. How should I use it ? What gains can I expect ?
Oral steroids only are not the way to go. Because they are extremely hazardous to the liver, lethal even in the long run, they can only be used for short periods and require extensive off periods. No mentionable amount of mass can be built during the short cycle and no mentionable amount of mass can be retained during the long off periods.
With D-bol or Anadrol its twice as bad. The gains are mostly estrogen mediated. That means lots of bloat and water, fat gain, easy to lose your gains (never expect to keep more than half from a D-bol only cycle, even if your diet is perfect) and so forth. D-bol is part of any good bulking cycle , but D-bol alone IS NOT A CYCLE.
For safe and maintainable gains you should really inject
9. I'm afraid of injecting, I don't know how to do it. What should I do.
Injecting is childsplay. Basically you pierce the skin with the needle, when it gets a little tougher, you've hit muscle. push through it. Now pull back on the plunger. If no blood enters the syringe, inject. If blood enters the syringe, pull the needle back slightly and then inject. Always make sure the muscle you inject into is relaxed. if you inject into the glute, you NEED to sit down to make the muscle relax if you inject yourself but stand up when someone else injects it. With the quad, make sure the knee is bent
10. What size needle should I use ?
For glute and even quad injections a 23 G will suffice, 1 to 1.5 inch. The longer for the glute injections. For spot injections, the use of a 25 or even a 27 G is recommended. Its more comfortable. For coarser products like Deca 25's will be too small and a 23 must be used.
1.I'm not yet 21, should I use steroids ?
NO. Plain and simple. Steroids WILL, not may, WILL stunt your growth. They close the epiphysial plates in your bones and stop all possibility of attaining a greater height. Further more using steroids during puberty, when you are dealing with an already very unstable endocrine system can have severe consequences in the long run : Erectile dysfunction (impotence), loss of libido and even infertility ! I assume most men in their late teens and twenties hope to have children some day and lead a long and fulfilling sex life, so steroids before the age of 21 : NO !
If you are a teenager wondering about steroids, heed this advice. Read the boards, absorb the knowledge and learn so you can use them properly when you are old enough. But for your own good steer clear of them now. For once and for all, use your mind, we have nothing to gain or lose by telling you not to use them.
2.Steroids are not magic !
They are merely effective hormonal supplements. They increase the rate of protein synthesis in the body, but to synthsize protein one still needs to take in enough protein and take care of his energy needs with fats and carbs. Those thinking that steroids will get them out of the rut their bad diets have created are sorely mistaken. A steroid user needs a minimum of experience because his diet will take a lot more work than the diet of a natural athlete. We are talking in excess of 25 calories per pound of bodyweight daily, where 18-22 will suffice for a natural. And most can't even make that. Large amount of proteins especially need to be consumed. Upwards of 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight daily. Steroids do not cause growth, they merely speed up the process and stretch it to supra-physiological levels, working with the means they have. And those means are the food you consume.
IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT YOU ATTEMPT TO ATTAIN GROWTH BY PROPERLY ADJUSTING YOUR DIET BEFORE EVEN CONSIDERING STEROIDS !
3.You should not use steroids until you have reached your natural limit.
Well lets say you need to be close to it. This has a lot to do with the previous points and for two reasons. The first being that if you are not near your natural limit, there is no way you tried enough variations in your diet to assume you are ready to use steroids.
The second reason is that if you cannot attain a near natural limit, you simply do not possess the nutritional skills to make steroids work to their maximum. The result being that you will waste a lot of money, get lots of side-effects, but not the gains you were hoping for.
4.What sort of gains should I expect ?
This is a question dependent on too many variable factors and has no answer
5.Do i need something to bring my natural test levels up after a test cycle?
This should go without saying. If you were thinking of asking this question, take it from me, you are not ready to start using steroids. After a cycle of steroids your natural sex hormone levels will be severely suppressed due to a mechanism called negative feedback. To preserve gains and keep a mentally and physically healthy life-style, you need to get your testosterone levels back on line. When a deficit of steroids in the body has occured, it will attempt to make natural testosterone again. But unfortunately steroid levels do not drop off, usually there is an estrogen rebound which prolongs the negative feedback. Estrogen of course will not suffice to keep your gains. So the need of an estrogen antagonist is needed post-cycle, either Clomid (clomiphene citrate) or Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate).
During longer or very suppressive cycles (Deca, long term test, trenbolone) your testicles may begin to shrink heavily due to disuse. this may make it harder to make natural test right off the bat. In such cases it is advised you use HCG as well to bring back the size of the testicles first.
6.When should I use Clomid or Nolvadex for this purpose ? How long and how much ?
This depends first of all on the products used. Specifically what the longest acting product was in teh cycle. If you used only orals or test suspension or winstrol injections, then you need to start Clomid/Nolva therapy immediately afterwards. If short esters like propionate or acetate were used, then start 4-6 days after your last shot. If you use long esters (enanthate, undecylenate, undecanoate, decanoate, enanthate/heptylate, ...) then start therapy 10-14 days after your last shot.
For Clomid start with 150 mg/day for 2 weeks, then 100 mg/day for 2 more weeks. With nolvadex, which should be given preference, start with 50 mg/day for 2 weeks and 25 mg/day for 2 more weeks. In both cases that is 4 weeks.
7.I heard you can drink Injectable winstrol / D-bol. Is this true ? Are the results the same ?
Winstrol (stanazolol) and D-bol (methandrostenolone) are both 17-alpha-alkylated steroids. 17-alpha-alkylation is a structural alteration that allows the steroid to withstand degradation in the liver and makes them orally available. So YES, these steroids can be taken orally.
Note 1 : The efficacy of this method is equal to taking an oral winstrol or D-bol preparation. Usually this is 75-80% of the efficacy one would get when injecting. Most are willing to accept 1/5th less gains or will take 1/5th more of the product because taking it orally is still easier than daily injections
Note 2 : These products are toxic to the liver. When injected they only pass the liver once, so they are a little less toxic. When ingested, only use them for 6 weeks on end and then stay away from them for 14 weeks. This goes for all 17AA steroids.
Note 3 : Not all injectable steroids can be taken orally, only 17AA steroids (D-bol, Winstrol, Anavar, Anadrol) and 1-methylated substances (Proviron and Primobolan). Other injectables will yield only 4-6% of their injectable capacity
8. I'm planning a cycle with only D-bol. How should I use it ? What gains can I expect ?
Oral steroids only are not the way to go. Because they are extremely hazardous to the liver, lethal even in the long run, they can only be used for short periods and require extensive off periods. No mentionable amount of mass can be built during the short cycle and no mentionable amount of mass can be retained during the long off periods.
With D-bol or Anadrol its twice as bad. The gains are mostly estrogen mediated. That means lots of bloat and water, fat gain, easy to lose your gains (never expect to keep more than half from a D-bol only cycle, even if your diet is perfect) and so forth. D-bol is part of any good bulking cycle , but D-bol alone IS NOT A CYCLE.
For safe and maintainable gains you should really inject
9. I'm afraid of injecting, I don't know how to do it. What should I do.
Injecting is childsplay. Basically you pierce the skin with the needle, when it gets a little tougher, you've hit muscle. push through it. Now pull back on the plunger. If no blood enters the syringe, inject. If blood enters the syringe, pull the needle back slightly and then inject. Always make sure the muscle you inject into is relaxed. if you inject into the glute, you NEED to sit down to make the muscle relax if you inject yourself but stand up when someone else injects it. With the quad, make sure the knee is bent
10. What size needle should I use ?
For glute and even quad injections a 23 G will suffice, 1 to 1.5 inch. The longer for the glute injections. For spot injections, the use of a 25 or even a 27 G is recommended. Its more comfortable. For coarser products like Deca 25's will be too small and a 23 must be used.
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