FINA for 1st cycle?

[Archamage]

Been doing tons of research here, and I have a curious question regarding homebrew FINA and one's first cycle...seems like 75mg eod is the recommended starting dosage, but in general would you guys suggest staying away from this as a first cycle?

I still have to go through the archives and learn about any post-cycle additions that I need to take into consideration but I'm taking it one step at a time.

Thaks for he help.

PS. FYI, 29y/o and been lifting seriously since to good ol' days of h.s. and college.

[lxorl]

everyone will tell you fina is a bad first cycle due to the daily or EOD injections. They will also tell you to run test with it.

[MYRICK]

I always say go with just test for your first cycle.

[Gear101]

hte main problem with tren in our first cycle is that it is a ery strong type of AS.. everything you read about it is ture.. but the sides are very strong.. and if a person doesn't really know what to look for in them it can have long term problems that really aren't worth another inch onto your arms today.. so IMHO you are better off just passing on it this time and try it for 4 weeks on your next cycel.. i would hope the rest of the board members would point you intot eh direction of winnie and that's another good thing to cut with..

[swift]

i think test is good for a 1st cycle

[Archamage]

All good points...far and away from what I have read here on the boards it seems as though test enan @ around 500mg/wk has been the most highly recommended for us newbies. Bt with all the new information out there regarding homebrew AS, I just wanted to run this question by the more experienced members here. I do like the idea of ensuring your dosages and sterile quality of the gear if made yourself (if done properly, of course).

OK, back to the research. Thanks again fellas.

[Skarn]

I'd stay away from it for a first cycle. EOD injections, sides, etc.

As the others have said, Test is a good first cycle. Or if you must, stack Test with Deca/dbol. The classic bulk cycle.

Skarn

[ChrisAdams]

Your point of ensuring sterility and dosages is somewhat valid, but you can avoid this by just going with a respected brand and source. Also, tren is not the only steroid that you can slap together at home. Raw powders for test, bold, deca, can all be purchased and suspended in the same manner.

[lxorl]

Test.. with 5 weeks of Dbol to jumpstart is a good first stack. just get some ldex to prevent too much bloat off it.

[Juicemonkey101]

Originally posted by Crankin'steiN
Yep. Test alone, or if you really must stack it with something, Skarn has offered some good choices.....

35mg D-bol ED weeks 1-4
500mg Test Enth. a week, weeks 1-10

There it is... The classic newbie cycle....

Very true... Did that for my first one 4 years ago and gained 30 pounds... havent even came close to that much of weight gain since!

[BossDJ02]

Originally posted by Crankin'steiN
Yep. Test alone, or if you really must stack it with something, Skarn has offered some good choices.....

35mg D-bol ED weeks 1-4
500mg Test Enth. a week, weeks 1-10

There it is... The classic newbie cycle....

now this is a cycle that a newbie should. ull see great gains on this one too.

[Archamage]

I like the idea of the DBol stack. At that dosage (dbol), how significant are the negative s.e. on the liver? I know with freaky high amounts, it's can become a rather unsafe AS, but curious about the 35mg/wk.

Thanks!

[Skarn]

People are all different, but I've never had a problem at 50mg/day. Just be sure to take liver protectors such as Milk Thistle and ALA, drink TONS of water and you should be fine.

Skarn

[GetBig]

my first cycle was simple
deca only and had good results.

Could have been better in I would have added test