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  • the keepability of gains

    i understand that dbol could be considered a roid whereas it's hard to keep the gains because some of them are water -however water gains aside, does a person have an equal chance to keep gains no matter which steroid they use?

    like, say i do fina, do i have the same chance of keeping the gains i make on fina as i do if i did test?

  • #2
    gains are different for most steroids even different for the different tests. in my opinion the best way to keep gains is keep eating and training hard even when you dont feel like it afterwards. fina dosnt aromatize so you get no water from from estrogen. when you stop test you loose the water and some weight unlike the tren.
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    • #3
      i know u lose the water -but shouldnt a person have the same chance on keeping muscle gains NO MATTER what steroid they use

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      • #4
        Like JG said, no. Generally, the faster the gains, the harder they are to keep. Take Deca for example, the gains come slower, but are more keepable. There are charts showing the ratings of how keepable gains are for each different roid.

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        • #5
          I don't believe so. Imo, some are better than others for keeping gains...like winny, var, and prop, that's why people often choose those for ending a cycle. You don't see many people ending with dbol or drol do you?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jsjs24
            I don't believe so. Imo, some are better than others for keeping gains...like winny, var, and prop, that's why people often choose those for ending a cycle. You don't see many people ending with dbol or drol do you?
            no, but those are kickstarts thats why u dont see it

            it just seems to me that muscle is muscle, i mean, why would where the muscle came from make a difference in your ability to keep it

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ZedsDead
              no, but those are kickstarts thats why u dont see it

              it just seems to me that muscle is muscle, i mean, why would where the muscle came from make a difference in your ability to keep it
              your body is always trying to stay in homeostasis. it dosnt want change. a slow acting steroid taken over a long time the body has a chance to get used to the extra muscle slowly and can get used to it. fast acting gear may increase muscle mass the same but in half the time and the body cannot cope with the physiological change and you loose some of the muscle just due to the body wanting to stay in that state of homeostasis. thats why IMO long cycles create more maintainable gains.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Skarn
                Like JG said, no. Generally, the faster the gains, the harder they are to keep. Take Deca for example, the gains come slower, but are more keepable. There are charts showing the ratings of how keepable gains are for each different roid.

                Skarn

                Skarn -
                do you remember where you saw these charts(books, website, studies)? I would like to see them. You can't just tease a guy with info like that.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Klash
                  Skarn -
                  do you remember where you saw these charts(books, website, studies)? I would like to see them. You can't just tease a guy with info like that.
                  there everywhere man



                  i dont think they're very good tho

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                  • #10
                    Muscle is muscle, there is no reason that muscle from deca will be more keepable than with test. When your taking about GAINS that is different if you GAIN more water then you will lose more water after and not keep all your GAINS, I agree with you zedsdead.
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                    Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
                    alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ZedsDead
                      there everywhere man



                      i dont think they're very good tho
                      Damn! - yeah, I've seen charts like that! I thought he was talking about charts based on studies.

                      You know there's lots of companies out there funding studies on anabolic steriods (scarcasm)..

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                      • #12
                        everyone is diff, for me i keep 90of my gains but i keep my diet tranning and rest in 100% after a cycle

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ZedsDead
                          i know u lose the water -but shouldnt a person have the same chance on keeping muscle gains NO MATTER what steroid they use
                          Remember creatine bro? That water is in the muscles, so no, gain keepability is not the same.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mudge
                            Remember creatine bro? That water is in the muscles, so no, gain keepability is not the same.
                            can u explain that better, i dont really understand what your trying to say?

                            yes, i know creatin causes some water retention, but how does that relate to keeping muscle gains from different steroids?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Colorao
                              Is keepability a word?

                              lol
                              no, but it should be

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