DNP questions

[newgirl]

Well look...I have known a few people in my gym (national level powerlifters) who have died in the last few years using DNP and they have used before. It is very harsh and you just cannot know how bad it is for you.

There are a few members here that have used (males) and I would say the vast majority of them used it -- but felt it was not worth it.

Using it requires alot of time, patience, planning, additional supplementation of minerals etc.

Are you a competitor may I ask? What are you goals for the future? Your diet may also have something to do with the fat areas as well as genetics. How much cardio do you do? How much dairy do you consume? What kinds of carbs are you eating now and when?

I suggest you think long and hard before jumping on this. And I would exhaust every other avenue first.

The cost/benefit ratio does NOT tip in your favor. No need to rish your life over losing a few pounds.

[AnotherUser]

First, God knows that national competitors don't use ANYTHING by rational means. Using a safe, low dosage is probably a bit different than what the guys you know were doing.

Also, 3Vandoo. If you're going to say that DNP does permanent damage, back it up. DNP was used in the past by physicians for weight loss and was banned because some women developed cataracts and the fact that it can be abused. There have been no known reported incidents of these patients suffering from any illnesses later in life related to DNP that I am aware of. But maybe you know something that I don't?

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by AnotherUser
First, God knows that national competitors don't use ANYTHING by rational means. Using a safe, low dosage is probably a bit different than what the guys you know were doing.

Also, 3Vandoo. If you're going to say that DNP does permanent damage, back it up. DNP was used in the past by physicians for weight loss and was banned because some women developed cataracts and the fact that it can be abused. There have been no known reported incidents of these patients suffering from any illnesses later in life related to DNP that I am aware of. But maybe you know something that I don't?

What? Having it banned by the FDA isn't enough to prove to you it's dangerous. You already stated DNP causes cataracts.. isn't that damage? I happen to know that 3V suffers from cataracts obtained from DNP use.

Look at this with some sence bro... are you really willing to risk your health and possibly your life because your too lazy to loose fat like the rest of the world? If your prepping for a contest or this involves your career (like in the case of btdr) then maybe it's worth it... but to look good for the girls? I know they love the yellow eye look.

[Got Gear?]

Pic of DNP:

[bdtr]

DNP can be deadly, im running a dose that would be considered at the very low end of a fatal dose for some, i know EXACTLY what im doing, ive researched a great deal before i started my first DNP cycle and researched even more after it. I'm using DNP to cut weight for fighting while retaining muscle mass, it's what i need to do and i know how it could end but i accept responsibilty. Like i said in my first post, is a few lbs worth your life? It's hard to make the choice. I've gone ALL other routes for fatloss and nothing works like DNP. I use 600mcg of clen a day and 250mcg of t3 and nothing works like DNP. I'd never advise someone to use it, however if you chose to do so, research it for a LONG time until you know what you're doing like the back of your hand. After you've done your research, ask some questions regarding it and tie up any lose ends you may have. This is after if you've determined weather its worth it or not, its a tough choice but i will say this, IT IS NOT FOR BEGINNERS. Good luck with whatever you chose to do.

[Got Gear?]

Thanks bdtr!

[AnotherUser]

First of all, cataracts can be removed. Second of all, the odds or developing cataracts can be minimized with the right ancillaries.

Got Gear, since the FDA banning a substance means that it is inherently dangerous and should be avoided like the plague, maybe you should reconsider using illegal, banned, anabolic steroids? And clenbuterol. And a variety of other compounds that I'm sure you've used. Using the FDA's judgement isn't exactly a good arguement.

Second, yes, DNP is a poison. Guess what. Everything you put in your body is a poison. DNP just happens to become toxic at a much lower dose than most chemicals that you put in your body. What does that translate to? Use DNP at a les than lethal dose. Duh.

Listen, all I'm saying is to not make unfounded statements like "DNP gives you permanent damage." I'm not saying everyone should use it, but lets be rational, sceintific, and objective when analyzing these things.

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by AnotherUser
Listen, all I'm saying is to not make unfounded statements like "DNP gives you permanent damage." I'm not saying everyone should use it, but lets be rational, sceintific, and objective when analyzing these things.

Ummm... since when has Anabolic steroids and Clen been banned by the FDA? You can still get a script for that stuff.

Secondly.. THESE ARE NOT UNFOUNDED STATEMENTS!! It's been proven DNP causes cataracts. Elevated body temperature also causes all sorts of negative side effects... Seriously... have you read the chemical profile for DNP? It's used as an industrial dye, a rat poison, and as an explosive... how can you sit there and tell me it's not going to cause permanent sides?

[Got Gear?]

SOME cataracts can be removed... by shaving it off along with some of your eye. This is eye tissue that's gone bad...not some sort of growth on your eye. Often Cataracts result in permenent vision damage... good luck wearing contacts too.

[Auriflex]

I will NEVER use DNP again. It made me feel like shit every single day. Plus everything that came out was orange.

[newgirl]

Anabolics today are currently used to treat people with medical conditions. While clen in this country is not currently approved -- it is used by millions in other countries for asthma. DNP currently serves no purpose in human nor animal consumption...there is where the differnce lies.

Whatever cautions there are and are not, I am not debating the use of DNP by seasoned competitors whose careers are based on what bodyfat percentage they step on stage with -- this is a young man who has NEVER used gear just wants to lose weight.

Firstly DNP like T3 does not discriminate on WHAT it burns. It just NOT burn fat...it will also burn muscle and this young man will end up inherently losing precious msucle with that fat.

Equally, he is complaining of love handles. DNP does not spot reduce...nothing does.

We should be first examining all other avenues before yessing him to death and giving him advice on something of this nature.

AnotherUser -- you can state your opinion without becoming combative and harsh. Getting one's point across can be a bit softer.

This is not a thread about the DNP and what people's opinions are and if they use or not -- this is a young man who needs to drop bodyfat because he wants to -- and has never done a cycle and we have a responsibility to educate but also caution and assess if this is truly applicable to this person.

[newgirl]

Originally posted by Auriflex
I will NEVER use DNP again. It made me feel like shit every single day. Plus everything that came out was orange.

I do remember you telling me that it was NOT worth the weight you lost......never again were your words.

[3Vandoo]

Originally posted by AnotherUser
First of all, cataracts can be removed. Second of all, the odds or developing cataracts can be minimized with the right ancillaries.

Got Gear, since the FDA banning a substance means that it is inherently dangerous and should be avoided like the plague, maybe you should reconsider using illegal, banned, anabolic steroids? And clenbuterol. And a variety of other compounds that I'm sure you've used. Using the FDA's judgement isn't exactly a good arguement.

Second, yes, DNP is a poison. Guess what. Everything you put in your body is a poison. DNP just happens to become toxic at a much lower dose than most chemicals that you put in your body. What does that translate to? Use DNP at a les than lethal dose. Duh.

Listen, all I'm saying is to not make unfounded statements like "DNP gives you permanent damage." I'm not saying everyone should use it, but lets be rational, sceintific, and objective when analyzing these things.

Cataracts formation on a 25yo male is not normal, and I DID USED ALL THE "ANCILLARIES" POSSSIBLE IN THE BOOK, TO 3 TIMES THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNTS! Is there long term analysis of dnp on human? NO' only short term, we dont know what will happen to a guy that used dnp let says at 29, but what would be the results when it will be 71??? we simply dont know.

And I did said, it give permanent damages, and I use that statement and back it up because it was made by the scientific, lab rat, that I trust the most, MYSELF.

DNP makes you lose fat, yes!

but let go:

how do you feel

- tired
- sweaty
- lose all strenght
- make you look like shit
- you cum fluo
- you piss fluo
- you smell chloride
- your brain is not there
- slow you down to a point.
- and you lose "1lb of fat a day" in theory.

ok, these side effects can appear, or not depending on your dosage and experience.

I did many dnp cycles and it is not worth it.... not at all. WHY? there is a nice rebound effects everytime you use it.
ALWAY!

the only nice effects I found with it, it was possible to cheat while doing ckd
pop up a cap on day first and you in keto very soon. Same when I had to cheat due to my "socializing" pop a dnp and I was still in keto.

There is no good, in using the "Death is not a problem".
Some even said that using dnp after a cycle with clomid had a anabolic effects..
MY ASS, I lost my strenght gain.


Oh yeah 17lbs of fat in 14 days was great, but 15 came back right away.
The fat I lost on ckd never came back since 12 months now.

dnp = crap

322 an experienced DNP'S user!

[DrtyJrzyGuy]

what is ckd

i hope it's not an abreviation for soemthing obvious

[3Vandoo]

Cyclical Ketogenic Diet.