how is this

[rude]

okay, this should be my first real cycle. What gains do you think I will get? What sides?

Im looking to gain some very lean mass on this cycle.... not really looking for a lot of size, what do you all think?

EQ 1-12 400mgs
prop 1-12 300mgs
var 7-12 30mgs

PCT after the cycle.

[jack hust]

if thats your cycle do the prop eod imo

[bdtr]

and do the prop to week 15 as well as the var.

[flexer01]

gains.......20-30+ pounds if your diet is good.

sides.......slight ance, red face, maybe some water weight. Nothing major.......

[rude]

Cool, thanks guys

[jipped genes]

Originally posted by bdtr
and do the prop to week 15 as well as the var.

yep, you have to run the short halflife drugs longer so when you stop them you dont have EQ still active in the body for pct.

[gearedup]

All good advice and should be a good beginner cycle for you!

[Blackfoot]

I think that's too many sticks for your first cycle bro. JMHO. I'd go with enanthate @ 500mg a week.

[BIG N]

bro u might wanna consider this
1-12 400 eq
1-15 100 mg prop eod
9-15 30-50 mgs var this way therapy can beginright away.also when ur doin var hit 10 gr of creatine aswell since var stimulates the phosphocreatine synthesis in the muscle it self they compliment each other very well .

[bdtr]

I beat ya to it, slow poke.

Originally posted by big N
bro u might wanna consider this
1-12 400 eq
1-15 100 mg prop eod
9-15 30-50 mgs var

[BIG N]

fucker !!!!!

[bdtr]

and my spelling was better too!

[DOUBLE J]

Originally posted by Blackfoot
I think that's too many sticks for your first cycle bro. JMHO. I'd go with enanthate @ 500mg a week.

I think your cycles not bad, but I was thinking the same thing about using ethanate in place of prop. Unless you don`t mind ED injections. Also it would be easier to run at about 500mg/a wk. You could kick start with D-bol.

EX-D-bol 30mg ED and finish with the prop and Var together.

Neither is a must. Simple can be better.

[rude]

Originally posted by DOUBLE J
I think your cycles not bad, but I was thinking the same thing about using ethanate in place of prop. Unless you don`t mind ED injections. Also it would be easier to run at about 500mg/a wk. You could kick start with D-bol.

EX-D-bol 30mg ED and finish with the prop and Var together.

Neither is a must. Simple can be better.

naw all of those injections wont bother me, at leat I hope they dont


The reason why I picked prop was because I hear their is less water retention with that test, compared to the rest.

[rude]

another question....... how much weight should I expect from this cycle?