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    I didn't see an informational post section so this might need moved if i missed it ......It's a good read...


    Extreme Eating for Mass


    Bodybuilders are constantly in search of substances
    that will increase anabolism. We take our creatine,
    glutamine, pyruvate, and a host of other nutritional
    supplements in our quest for more muscle. Bodybuilders
    who choose to go the "enhanced" route are always
    searching for the anabolic drug that will take their
    physique to the next level. With all of the means at
    our disposal to increase muscular bodyweight, one
    simple fact often gets overlooked. Food is the most
    anabolic substance we can put in our bodies.

    What separates pro-bodybuilders from the rest of us? I
    know that people like to engage in discussions about
    aesthetics, muscle maturity, and symmetry. However,
    it's painfully obvious that the primary difference is
    muscular size. It's amusing for me to hear competitors
    talk about how great their symmetry is despite the
    fact that they don't have enough muscle to win a local
    qualifier. Muscular size is the primary indicator of
    success in bodybuilding competition. With regular
    certainty, the largest man on stage wins the show.

    Over the past several years, there has been a push
    inside the supplement industry towards low-calories
    mass building. We've seen "lean-mass" products appear
    on the market, with all of the major supplements
    companies like Met-RX and EAS advocating their MRP's
    as a way to add lean tissue without gaining additional
    fat. It is no longer en vogue to bulk-up in the
    off-season, the industry line that is touted in the
    magazines these days is that athletes rarely stray too
    far from their contest bodyweights. With the advent of
    these new nutritional technologies, it is now possible
    to be both massively muscled and lean at all times.
    Horseshit!!!

    The truth is that the pictures seen in the various
    bodybuilding publications are all taken immediately
    before or after contests. It is not uncommon to see a
    bodybuilder put on 20+ lbs the day after a contest!
    Most bodybuilding aficionados don't have the slightest
    idea of what these athletes look like 95% of the year.
    It's mistakenly assumed that these guys always look
    fairly lean and chiseled. Nothing could be further
    from the truth.

    By attempting to stay lean year-round, you are
    sabotaging your goals to become as muscular as humanly
    possible. Athletes who constantly chase more muscle
    while worrying about body fat levels will never gain
    the muscle they need to achieve their goals. Let's
    consider this question: Which is harder to build, fat
    or muscle? Obviously, muscle. Next question. Which is
    easier to lose, fat or muscle? For those of you that
    said muscle, sorry, wrong answer, thanks for playing.
    Once muscle is built it's a fairly easy proposition to
    maintain it while dieting off body fat.

    I honestly can't fault anyone for following these
    "lean mass" programs. Being bloated and fat in the
    off-season isn't any fun. If any of you have had the
    chance to see Lee Priest in the off-season, you'll
    know what I mean. The man is nearly unrecognizable
    from the contest and ad pictures we constantly see in
    the various publications. Lee doesn't get just a
    little heavy, he gets fat. It don't think he would be
    offended if I say he looks like a lop of shit.
    However, when the fat comes off, and it surely does
    every year, Lee's physique is amazing. If you talk to
    Lee, and ask him what his secret to success is, he'll
    tell you. It's food.

    So, why all the secrecy and smoke and mirrors
    surrounding the nutritional profiles of these
    athletes? One simple reason. Money. Money from
    endorsements, contracts, and ad work. Say I'm an up
    and coming national level bodybuilder. I'm eating over
    7,000 calories a day. In order to do this, I'm
    consuming a lot of fatty foods, hell, I'm eating
    McDonalds and ice cream as much as possible. Why?
    Because I cannot physically consume that level of
    caloric intake in clean, low-fat foods. It cannot be
    done. However, do the supplement companies want their
    customers to know this? Of course not. Look, it's an
    accepted premise that all national and professional
    level bodybuilders take steroids, right? However, it's
    something that's never discussed in the supplement
    industry, and bodybuilders get paid to endorse
    products. So, they lie. My success is based largely on
    the fact that I use XYZ Protein. I was able to compete
    20 lb heavier at this year's Mr. O because I was
    taking Sportgear prohormones. Whatever. My point isn't
    that nutritional supplements don't have their place,
    they certainly do. (We'll discuss that in a feature
    article in next month's issue of Anabolic Extreme) My
    point is that professional bodybuilders are used
    because there is a large segment of the population
    that would like to emulate that look. If they can be
    made to believe that look is obtained through clean
    eating and sports supplements, who's hurt, right?

    I've seen so many genetically gifted bodybuilders fail
    in the quest to achieve greatness. 9 times out of 10
    the culprit is nutrition. Specifically, the problem is
    not consuming enough calories. I can't tell you how
    many times I've had an athlete come to me who has hit
    a plateau. I modify their nutrition slightly and they
    are growing again. People, you are not going to
    achieve brutal muscle size on 3,500 kcal a day!! I
    don't care what anyone else tells you, I've seen it
    fail and I know it doesn't work. All successful
    national and professional level bodybuilders eat all
    day long. In the off-season their only concern is
    getting those meals in and eating enough protein.
    Anyone can train intensely given the right
    circumstances and knowledge. Any fool can jab
    themselves with steroids. However, there are very few
    people in the sport of bodybuilding that are
    consistently able, day in and day out, to eat their
    6-8 meals a day and consume enough calories to reach
    anabolic extreme. (Please refer to the Ian Harrison
    interview in this month's issue for Ian's thoughts on
    off-season bodybuilding nutrition)

    What are your goals as a bodybuilder? Is it your goal
    to have an aesthetically pleasing physique, staying
    relatively lean year round? Or is it to carry as much
    muscle as your genetic potential will allow? One goal
    is not nobler than the other, but they certainly
    require different strategies. While it is possible to
    stay relatively lean year round once a desired level
    of muscle has been achieved, it is not possible to do
    this while trying to gain the muscle initially. Unless
    extraordinary circumstances are present, muscle cannot
    be added and fat lost at the same time!! The
    conditions necessary for this to happen are so rare
    and require so many drugs that it's not worthy of
    discussion in this article. Muscle is gained by eating
    over and above what is required for maintenance. Fat
    is lost by eating less than what is required for
    maintenance. It's virtually impossible to gain muscle
    without adding some concomitant fat, conversely, it's
    almost impossible to lose fat without losing
    concomitant muscle tissue. These are the irrefutable
    facts.

    We see a lot of huge professional bodybuilders in the
    off-season that would not be characterized as "fat" in
    the normal sense of the word. They are fat only by
    bodybuilding standards. As I'm writing this, it's
    Wednesday, November 17, 1999. Last Saturday I was
    lucky enough to see Ronnie Coleman in Sacramento, CA.
    Ronnie competes close to 260 lbs at a height of about
    5'10". When I saw him, he was weighing in at about 305
    lb still appearing to be fairly lean, just weeks after
    his wins at some major European shows. The whole time
    I was at this event, Ronnie was eating. Burgers,
    fries, you name it, he ate it. In a few months, he
    should well over 320, eating everything in site in his
    attempt to add more muscle. This is 60+ lb over his
    competition bodyweight. It's also what is necessary to
    continue to grow.

    Dorian is one of the people responsible for the new
    era of freakiness seen in bodybuilding today. I was
    fortunate enough to see Dorian a few times in the
    off-season during his competitive heyday. I was able
    to sit and have lunch with Dorian through a friend of
    mine immediately after he announced his retirement
    from competition. Among the myriad of subjects that
    were discussed, off-season nutrition certainly was one
    of the most interesting. Does anyone remember the 1995
    Night of Champions when Dorian guest-posed at roughly
    300 lbs? That was nearly unheard of at the time. Many
    said that he was too fat and out of shape and that
    would never come be able to come down for the O. Not
    only did Dorian lose the weight, he crushed his
    competition. Dorian's philosophy was that his
    off-season appearance was inconsequential. What
    mattered was what he looked like when he stepped on
    stage. During the off-season, his nutrition centered
    around two simple factors: total caloric intake and
    total protein intake. Nothing else mattered.

    The Role of Drugs in Diet
    Before we continue on, I'd like to make it clear that
    the nutritional strategies that are discussed in this
    article are not designed with the health of the
    athlete in mind. Additionally, the plan we will
    outline will be of benefit only to bodybuilders using
    significant amounts of growth promoting drugs,
    specifically heavy androgens. In a future issue of
    Anabolic Extreme, we will examine the various
    high-fat, low-carb diets, which I feel are
    particularly effective for natural athletes. Please
    bear in mind that any numbers or figures discussed in
    this article would apply only to bodybuilders that are
    fairly advanced and using a significant amount of
    steroid. Nutritional strategies would vary for
    beginners or natural athletes. I can always be
    contacted via the site and try and answer as many
    emails as possible. I'm also available for
    consultations and on-line training.

    Obviously, something is going on here that is allowing
    these guys to consume an enormous amount of calories
    and not have it go straight to their ass and gut. If a
    natural athlete were to eat in this fashion, he'd soon
    be getting a visit from a sobbing Richard Simmons. The
    drugs these athletes take not only have an anabolic
    effect, but have some effect on adipose tissue as
    well. So, out of the myriad of drugs these athletes
    use, which are responsible for keeping for them both
    large and lean (relatively! at the same time?

    Hopefully everyone is aware of the amazing effect HGH
    has on reducing body fat. This is one of the few real
    world effects of growth that has been proven through
    scientific research. Its effects on lean body mass, at
    least according to all of the studies I've read, are
    less than impressive. This isn't what I've witnessed
    with my own eyes, but I don't even want to open up
    that can of worms here! However, all of the studies on
    growth show that it burns fat, with some subjects
    losing as much as 15% of their fat tissue.

    Testosterone has a proven effect on lipolysis (fat
    release) in adipose tissue. To my knowledge, there has
    never been a study done using young, healthy males and
    large doses of testosterone to determine its effects
    on body composition. For the most part, studies done
    on growth hormone and testosterone are performed on
    aging populations and geriatrics, or severely ill
    individuals suffering from wasting conditions.
    However, there have been a few studies on younger
    males using very low doses of testosterone that have
    clearly demonstrated its effectiveness at reducing
    body fat.

    Meal Planning, Frequency, and Consistency
    We've all heard we should eat 4-6 meals a day. I try
    and have most of my clients shoot for 6-8 meals a day.
    Why? Well, let's say your caloric intake on any given
    day needs to be 7500 kcals per day. If you consume
    this over three meals, each meal will contain
    approximately 2500 kcal. Realistically, your body is
    not going to be able to digest this many calories and
    much of the nutrient value of the food is lost. By
    spreading these meals over 7 sittings, you're able to
    effectively digest the food and maximize the benefits
    of eating at this level. Additionally, your metabolism
    is going to speed up since every time you consume
    food, your body has to expend energy to digest it.

    Eating more frequent smaller meals has been proven to
    have positive effects on cholesterol and body fat
    levels. Now, I'm not telling you that eating 7,500
    kcals is unhealthy when consumed in three meals but
    healthy when spread out over seven. Eating calories at
    that level is unhealthy, PERIOD!! However,
    bodybuilding is about achieving a certain cosmetic
    effect, and the extremes of bodybuilding are only
    reached through extreme measures. If this frightens
    you, you need to reevaluate your goals. Again, we are
    discussing what it takes to succeed in the upper
    echelons of the sport.

    When it becomes necessary to consume calories at this
    level, life becomes a constant stream of eating,
    cooking, cleaning, and eating again. Most pro
    bodybuilders don't have a job outside the sport, the
    daily regimen that's required to be successful
    precludes outside work. Meals should be consumed every
    2-3 hours with clockwork precision. This ensures a
    constant supply of nutrients and protein in the
    bloodstream. Obviously it's nearly impossible to
    consume 6-8 solid food meals a day, most athletes will
    take 3-4 or their meals in liquid form. Since these
    liquid meals are more easily digested than whole
    foods, it allows the bodybuilder a respite if 7-8
    meals are required to get the necessary caloric
    intake.

    So, how many calories are necessary for growth? Every
    athlete has a different caloric need, based on a
    variety of factors. At the elite level, athletes have
    been known to consume 25-30 kcal per lb of bodyweight
    per day. What's important to understand is that the
    level of caloric consumption should be based on the
    weight you are striving for, not your current weight.
    Let's take Joe Bodybuilder. Joe weighs 260 lbs at 6'
    and has been lifting seriously for several years now.
    His friends keep telling him to compete at the State
    level so he's decided to get up to 300 lbs and diet
    back. However, no matter how hard he tries, he can't
    add any more muscle. The problem probably lies with
    Joe's nutrition program. Since he wants to weigh 300
    lbs, he might have to eat somewhere in the range of
    8,000-9,000 kcal per day to achieve that weight. Most
    bodybuilders are unable to do this.

    If Joe does have the willpower to do this, what should
    he eat? I've known many elite bodybuilders that eat
    whatever they want in the off season. Certainly they
    focus on protein consumption, but after that,
    everything is fair game. It is possible to eat in a
    fashion that is conducive to both fat loss and
    muscular gain but that requires constant monitoring of
    the athlete and is beyond the scope of this article.

    The bodybuilding media has perpetrated the myth that
    we should be in shape all year long. Realistically,
    this is ultimately a recipe for disaster in your quest
    to add muscular size. Staying lean year round is the
    domain of male models and endurance athletes. If
    you're serious about packing on as much muscle as
    possible, go buy that baggy T-shirt and start loading
    up on the groceries. When you diet off that extra
    flab, you'll find that you've taken your physique to a
    whole new level.

  • #2
    good stuff

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    • #3
      I use to do that.......get big a fat in the winter then cut like 30 pounds. Its hard on the body. I find it easier to stay lean all year.
      RIP - Geared
      RIP - BigJ


      flexer01@cyber-rights.net

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      • #4
        good read.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by flexer01
          I use to do that.......get big a fat in the winter then cut like 30 pounds. Its hard on the body. I find it easier to stay lean all year.
          absolutely - and hard on your heart too.

          I just read the other day an article - stating the opposite - saying - you can gain lean muscle and lose fat at the same time - it's a matter of balancing types of workout and hi/low GI carbs.

          If I find it I'll post it here.


          Anyway, INTIMID8OR3 - very good read and an interesting point of view.
          RIP BigJim
          RIP GU

          www.x-2-o.com


          J_Abbays@hushmail.com

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          • #6
            Moderation is the key! you can get a little crazy with the junk food just but don't go overboard
            God bless and RIP GearedUp and Big Jim

            Salvation is a free gift all you have to do is ask

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            • #7
              hmmm naturally lean and cant gain fat. even on 6500kcals/day. oh well. thats why im getting bigger and not fatter. ahhh high metabolism.

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              • #8
                eggs. lots and lots of eggs. ostrich eggs, stegosaurus eggs, canary eggs, and most important, duckbilled platypus eggs. my secret to success.

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                • #9
                  Jason Mueller has some good articles

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