please critique my progress

[thewolf]

Hey, this is my first cycle and i have no friends that juice so I am not sure if my progress so far is good or not. I am on 40mgs of russian dbol a day and 750mgs of sust a week. I am 6'2 and 218pds -can u please tell me if i am making good progress or not?

I am on day 11 -i started at 214pds and am now 218 pds
i have made small strength gains -ie. today on flat dumbell chest press i did 105pds for 6 reps and before i juiced i did 105 pds for 3 reps

i am getting better pumps when i workout but nothing like the back/leg pumps ppl tlk about with dbol (maybe too early in cycle?)

So anyway, do u guys think my gains so far are respectable or could they be alot better? (i realize it is still early in the cycle, also i am shooting the sust at 250mg 3x a week i'm starting to love the injections for some reason)

Respect

[thewolf]

Originally posted by saturn
At day 11 your progress is fine. I would expect a little more water weight from the dbol. The strength gain is good.
How is your diet? Make sure you bump up the cals enough. You will need a lot more now that you are on a cycle.

thanks for the reply bro, i am getting roughly 5000-5500 cals a day and drinking 7ltrs of water a day (dont know why so little water weight) -2 reasons may be
1-i was taking femara the first 5 days then decided to cut it out and just use nolva if i need it
2-i was on creatine b4 cycle started and dropped it 1st day of cycle (dont know if this makes a diff. but when i drop creatine i usually lose some strength and a small bit of weight)

Any other input is appreciated guys

[Stupid Biotch]

Not everybody gains a lot of water. I know I usually don't unless I'm on some real high levels of androgens.
Your progress is just fine. Remember...the test is gonna take a while longer to really start working. Some people seem to have slow going results with russian Dbol in the beginning. By your next set of workouts for each bodypart (ex: your next chest workout) you should see a significant strength increase.

[jack hust]

i agree sb he should see some better results in 4-5 days from the dbol, how many calories are you eating bro?

[thewolf]

i am eating roughly 5000-5500 cals a day, i naturally have a huge apetite and eat very clean (things like cottage cheese, sweet potatoes, lots of chicken, etc.) -the weird thing is i gain tons of water off creatine but dont seem to be gaining any off dbol, its not really that much of a concern for me as long as i continue to see strength gains and start seeing decent lbm gains...

also, i seem to have to push it VERY hard to get sore, i mean i have to work out like 2x as to feel sore at all the next day, even for legs, and when i am training natural i always get sore from lifting -this has me considering working certain bodyparts twice a week (chest, and arms basically), i dont think i would be overtraining.....

[trancedelt]

don't use soreness as an indicator of how 'good' your workouts are... its actually a pretty crappy indicator, just do your workouts and if it happens it happens

btw there are studies showing that taking ibuprofen before your workout will prevent most of the DOMS, so soreness is not dependent on how much the muscle is stimulated...

[thewolf]

should i not up my workout frequency or...??

[thewolf]

i wasnt saying i was using it as an indicator for how good my workouts were, more so that i feel more recovered thus possibly able to workout more....

[trancedelt]

ya i didnt read what you wrote very well sorry... but still soreness isn't all that important...
as for the workout frequency i would keep it the same as what gives you gains when natural, since the gear will be having you work out much more intensely, and you'll probably be inclined to do more volume...
it would be hard to work different bodyparts with different frequencies... why dont you post your current routine and what youre thinking of?

[thewolf]

when i trained natural:
monday - off
tuesday - legs
wednesday - biceps
thursday - chest
friday - back
saturday - forearms/calves
sunday - shoulders/triceps

What i was thinking of now that i'm juicing:
monday - biceps
tuesday - chest
wednesday - back/biceps
thursday - legs
friday - chest
saturday - back
sunday - shoulders/triceps

When training naturally I was doing 5-10 sets per body part (depending on the size of the muscle i'm working) and did 4-6 reps always to failure -so far i have kept this the same while juicing...

[thewolf]

Originally posted by Colorao
When the hell do you rest while "on"?

who needs rest while on?!?!?

heh, this is my first cycle and i dont feel like i need alot of rest, that second spilt was something i was thinking about doing because i feel like i'm recovering extremly fast, was looking to see if ppl thought that would be overtraining, keeping in mind the amount of sets i do and my rep range

[trancedelt]

i dont like that layout, JMO
how about a 4 day split like:
1 - chest
2 - bis
3 - back shoulders
4 - triceps legs
5 - off

that way you have chest/bis early in the split and trained alone (though i have never heard of someone doing bis only on one day heh)

[Damonic]

I do dorians split

1- chest and bi's
2- legs fucking god damn legs
3- off
4- back andd rear delts
5- shoulders and tri's
6- off

repeat

when your on you dont feel like you need rest but you still do. 4 lbs in 11 days is ok. Maybe throw in a weight gainer shake and see if it helps.

[jsjs24]

I think Tancedelt's routine...it's similar to mine.
1 - Legs
2 - Arms
3 - Back/Shoulders
4 - Chest
5 - Rest
6 - Repeat cycle

This one works well for me.

[thewolf]

so basically everyone is saying doing chest or arms twice in a week while on is a bad idea right?