Sust. results

[PinCushion]

Well it seems to me you didn't plan this cycle out wisely to start off with. Why did you taper up, then back down again? Why did you run the Dbol in the middle of the cycle? And why did you keep your calories low? I know you've admitted that keeping the calories fairly low was a dumb thing to do so let that just be a learning experience for you. Do you have Clomid? I'm not sure 'bout that amp, if it's legit or not. You might wanna check it out. Sounds like your source is really suspicious too. Maybe e-mail a mod and see if they can check him out.

[grimek]

Pincushion, what should I have done instead of tapering up up then back down? If your saying to do the dbol in the beginning of the cycle instead of peaking the sust. and dbol at the same time, what's the benefit? I have the HCG pictured above (not Clomid) but if the sust. is bogus does that matter?

[PinCushion]

Well....I would have kept the dosages the same/week all the way through. Say 500mg/week, or 750mg/week etc. And the DBol is usually used in the beginning of a cycle, because it kicks in almost right away. The Sust. wont kick in for about 4 - 5 weeks. It just seems to me you didn't really plan this out. Just kinda started injecting and did whatever. But if this is what you planned, and for whatever reason, that's cool. Just doesn't really seem orthodox to me, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. The best cycles are the ones you plan out wisely, and stick to it. The reason why I asked if you had some post cycle therapy was because I wanted to know if you took the proper precautions for post cycle. We still haven't established for sure if the Sust was bogus or not. Or if the Dbol was bogus or not. It is possible that your gear is legit, and this is why I would run some kind of post cycle therapy, be it Nolva, Clomid, or HCG to prevent a hormonal crash. Even though you haven't gained much weight, you will still want to wake up those testes of yours.

[Muraco]

Hey, Grimek! You and I seem to be both "old schoolers," and I also learned that its better if you don't taper up or down anymore...like 10-15 years ago. Its better to go the whole way through (start to finish) using the weekly amount you want to use, like PinCushion said. You will get much better results, and have a better chance of keeping most of it after you come off, too. I also usually quit the Dbol about 6 weeks into the cycle. Also, next time run about 600mgs. of Deca with your Sus250. Also, get Omnadren Sus250 amps by Jelfa, they are much more reliable than any mexican Sus 250 stuff! I recently got a bad cycle of some other kind of Mexican Sus and EQ, even though the lot numbers were good! If you can, stick with American or European made stuff, with Mexican you just never can tell!

[grimek]

Okay Pincushion. My next dose cycle will be level. Thanks to all for the help here.

[Mudge]

What do you mean "peaking out" at x AMPs per week, there is no reason to ramp the stuff, run it the same does the whole way through OR front load, other than that keep the same dose through the cycle.