HGH and ANAVAR

[MIKANO]

Hi all , Im new to this board.
I been doing olot a reading here.
Well I now 30ish getting old LOL , I been working out since Im 14yrs old on and off like 6 months on and 6 off. I think I took two years off. I can't remember.
I juice when I was like 16 , and it was great , not long maybe 4 weeks and I did get alittle big. As I did get cuts, Definitions. And I still have Definitions. I took Deca, then I took Anavar later on.

Ok , Now Im planing on going back to gym , I stoped three months ago due to busy at work.
Im looking to get alittle into shape and cut here. I don't want to do aot of cycles only becaused Im afraid of Failing drug test. I know Steroids don't show up "I Guest"
So I picked out the drugs that won't show up on a drugtest.
Im thinking of using HGH and ANAVAR.
What type of gains would I expect off this cycle ?
How long can I used these two componds ?
I thought of doing the Anavar like 40Mg a day and HGH start from 2ius then work my way up to 4ius , 5 days on two off.

The Anavar I would take like before I workout with alittle something, then the HGH after I workout . Is this a good idea ?

I know avavar is not that affective so 40mgs should do the trick.
How long to do this cycle till I notice any results ?
Im thinking of doing it this way becaused of drugtesting. like taking the Avavar after work for my best bet.
Or wait till I get drugtest then , used test at 5oomg weekly. for 8 weeks then clomid post cycle.
My stats are :
5'3 130 lbs

Thanks for any info on this topic.

[Billy_Bathgate]

Depend on what the drug test is for. If its not a high govt related job or some sports related reason, or legal trouble with AAS involved or speculated, I doubt they would. Most likely, they would test your eptitest ratio. If its out of range, then a metabolite test is in order (the big $$ one).

If you use Var, there is a chance that not enough testicular suppresion will occur. At 40mg, its hard to say though.

So, depending on what the test is for, think about it.


Other than that, 40mg Var and GH could be a decent cycle. Var is probally the only time I could see doing a cycle without test involved. Anavar can and will shop up if they specifically do a metabolite test. Like I said, they prob wont unless your epitest ratio is out of whack.

I would take the GH in the morning, and possibly another dose mid-day. The var I would split up 3x a day or whatever is most convienient.

Gains? Hard to say but probally increased mass and strength, and loss of fat (kinda obvious though huh). I couldnt really put a definate number, but maybe 10-15lbs in 12 wks?

Length? If you get blood work and monitor your HTPA suppression, you could probally stay on for a long time. I think var would take some time to fully shut you down.

[MIKANO]

Urine testing

thank for you reply.
I work for a private trucking company. Thay do urine testing. Random though.
I thought I'd do it right after I get tested , while workingout in the mean time.

drinking plenty of water would help during the day I guest ?

Also Thats what Im thinking of doing .
I might not evening do it I don't know , it all depends on me .

Anyway The GH , don't you have to do it for like sixs months to see results ? rather then doing it for 8 weeks ?

[Billy_Bathgate]

For the trucking company, I would have no worries. But I understand your concerns.

Drinking water probally wont do a whole lot in terms of detection or clearance times since they look for epitest ratio. I dont see how dilluting it would change it. Its definately good for you though.

GH depends on the dosing. Most say the long term is better, but there has been some discusion reguarding higher doses for less times may be better. I guess it comes down to your budget and the amount of gains you are seeking in a certain amount of time really. Myself, I would go for the 6mo dosing.

[MIKANO]

HGH by itself or with Something ?

I know for a fact that HGH will work with Steriods or clen and T3.
By itself I believe it would burn the fat cells .

How long is it good to do Winny and GH. And then discontinue the Winning and continue the GH ?

How would this cycle Look ?

Even If You do HGH by itself for 6 months it won't build muscle ?
Hmmm, Its got me going nuts here on what to do .

Well take some time on reading this , this is what They test me for.

Thanks for your help


Drug Abuse Profile (HHS/DOT), Urine (5 Drugs) (GC/MS confirmation included at no charge) (794800)
CPT 80100

Test Includes Amphetamines; cannabinoids (marijuana); cocaine metabolite; creatinine, urine; opiates; phencyclidine (PCP)

Special Instructions Initial testing uses immunoassay with gas chromatography/mass spectrometry (GC/MS) confirmation. Testing may vary depending upon a number of variables, including the need for compliance with The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Department of Transportation (DOT) guidelines, company guidelines, collective bargaining agreements, or other guidelines. It is the responsibility of the client to confirm applicable requirements.

Specimen Urine (random)

Volume 30 mL (primary), 15 mL (split)

Container Collection kit

Collection Chain-of-custody is initiated through the use of special request forms and packaging materials and by following the special packaging instructions supplied by the laboratory. Chain-of-custody is included at no charge in all HHS/DOT drug abuse tests.

Storage Instructions Refrigerate or maintain specimen at room temperature.

Methodology Immunoassay with gas chromatography/mass spectrometry (GC/MS)