Homebrew TE: What's the maximum strength attainable?

[AnotherUser]

That's what I'm thinking too. I'm not a big fan of going to see the doc and trying to explain this to her though . Oh well. If it doesn't get better by Monday, I guess I have not choice.

Oh, and BTW, I got another 2mL of puss out. I just read somewhere that a heat pad can speed healing so I reckon I'll give that a try.

[drab4]

Mate if you have an abcess or infection of any kind then GET ON THE ANTIBIOTICS..... LOL the shouting is because this stuff can seriously hurt your gains bro as you know.

My personal plan is to always have antibiotics on hand at all times. That way I can start the medication if I even suspect an abscess or infection...... This doesn't happen much, but better safe than sorry IMHO.

[MidnightRider]

Originally posted by yamaha147
what would u say to a doc that caused ur abscess? Can you say it just appeared or what? I wouldnt admit to using AS.

B-12, it's not illegal to take vitamins.

[pigmeat]

i have tried eql and Black Label test enth,both 400mg plus, with no pain at all! I dont see why homebrew cant be painless as well.

[AnotherUser]

I think it was because mine had bacteria in it

Oh, and BTW, I would not recommend to anyone that they just sterile filter. I did that. STERILE FILTER AND BAKE. INFECTIONS ARE NOT FUN.

Oh yeah, went and saw the doc today. Thank god he (and she) didn't give me any lectures. They were very professional and were just concerned about the infection. They gave me a shot of some antibiotic in my ass (starts with in "R") and told me to come back tomorrow to see if it improved and we would go from there.

I'll keep everything updated.

Oh yeah, I think I'm going to re-filter my test, combine it with my deca (~250mg/ml) and then bake. Hopefully that will take care of everything.

[BigD]

I've made test e, deca, and eq all at 500mg/ml and mine was almost painless. You must be making it wrong if it still hurts at only 400, that can easily be made painless!

[Stupid Biotch]

I made some at 500mg/ml. Hurt BAD!! I only used .5ml of benzyl alcohol so I KNOW it wasn't the alcohol that caused the pain. Wherever I shot it it would turn red and I'd have water retention in that area. I think that high concentrations of test can hurt you just like high concentrations of alcohol(remember...test comes crystalized and is simply dissolved...but it still has mass to it and if you're shooting such high concentrations of it...it's going to irritate your muscle).
Now the infection thingy.......I don't think your stuff was dirty. Your muscles can get so irritated from high concentrations that you can get an infection...but not because the gear was dirty. I had an infection in my delt from using high alcohol content gear like T400 and drained out 6cc's of puss twice in one day. It was gross but by draining it out it cleared it up. If you sterile filtered your gear and also baked it then you have nothing to worry about...it's just you made it way too potent and the concentration is too high for your muscles.

So just make it not so potent

[Stupid Biotch]

OH...and I wouldn't add it to your deca.......for me at least that never worked too well in making it less painful. I'd add more oil to your test so that it comes out to 250mg/ml. That will help more.

[AnotherUser]

Thanks bro for the comments.

I'm thinking I'm going to add it to the deca because the deca is fairly dilute (only ~250mg/ml). That will bring the total hormone concentration to around 330mg/ml, which isn't that high. Plus It will allow me to run the same dose throughout my entire cycle. I've been shooting Once every 3 days, but I'll probably go EOD at 1.5mL if I mix the two.

I appreciate everyone's input!

[MidnightRider]

Originally posted by pigmeat
i have tried eql and Black Label test enth,both 400mg plus, with no pain at all! I dont see why homebrew cant be painless as well.

I tried the EQL 400 and it hurt like hell. I had to add oil to it just to use it.

[bigpopapump]

I also did a conversion with enanthate. This was the first time converting powder (it actually looked like glue). And my first few shots it was the same. My delts swelled up, got red and hot and very painful. I figured that I didn’t cook it enough so I re-heated and re-cooked. To make things worse I add about 9ml of BA instead of 2ml. The kit I had brought 40ml of oil and 10ml of BA. So I figured I needed to use it all. Big mistake. After re-heating and re-filtering it doesn’t get red or hot, but it still hurts. I just ordered another batch, hopefully this time it will be ok. I’m going to cook it a little longer and only put 2ml of BA. It also sounds like we have the same source.

[AnotherUser]

Well, I just got back from the doc. I got a 1 inch incision in my quad which was stuffed with some padding and wrapped in guaze pad to catch any puss that drains out. Also got an antibiotic. I've got to go see him again tomorrow. This shit sucks

[Stupid Biotch]

Bigpoppapump.....I did the same thing you did the first time...put WAAAAAY too much BA in it and it HURT LIKE HELL. Nothing I could do about it...I just cut my losses.

And Crankenstein.....if you know what you're doing...making your own test is awesome becuase you can get 10 grams of test for about as much as a couple juggs of cheap protein......so it definately has it's advantage.

[AnotherUser]

Well, just got back from the doc again. Still needs to drain some more. He gave me a prescritpion for some Tylenol 3 (300mg Tylenol/30mg codeine per tab). Needless to say, it's hurting like all hell.

CLEAN YOUR GEAR. BAKE IT AND FILTER IT. It's simply not worth the time saved to skip a step.

[PPL]

That is why people still buy premade products. While it seems simple to make it in your kitchen, it is easy to make a mistake that can set back your training substantially.

We have found that by mixing similar esters and using a special solubilizer and excipient (not your standard oils) 400mgs per ml can easily be achieved without it being too thick to use. 600mgs per is possible but it is hard to get through a 25g needle and is more subject to crashing unless you add BA or b benzoate, which we do not use.

Additionally, consider that sterile filtering is good but all pharma grade products are heat sterilized in processing.

PPL