8 month cycle, EQ for base

[latimer99]

i am planning on doing a big cutting cycle for 8 months. i have decided to use EQ as the base for the following reasons:
-no h2o retention
-quality gains
-keepable gains
-wkly injects
-no estrogen conversion
-low toxicity
during this time i am planning on running tren enan for 6 wks and masterone toward the end for 6wks, assuming my bf will be below 9%.
cycle will look something like this:
EQ 1-2 frontload @1000mgs
EQ 3-32 @500 mgs
tren 12-18 @150eod
masterone 25-32 @100eod
post therapy @ end

what do you guys think
btw i dont like test...

[latimer99]

btw, i will be running a low test dose eow to maintain test production.

[Manic Behavior]

Do you plan on using any fat burners such as clen/t3 or eca? I have that a stack of l-dex and NYC can work wonders for estrogen related fat. Of course the most important factor will be diet, how does it look?

[flexer01]

that should work very well!

[FATBOY]

Why the HCG halfway trough cycle? thanks.

[latimer99]

Originally posted by Manic Behavior
Do you plan on using any fat burners such as clen/t3 or eca? I have that a stack of l-dex and NYC can work wonders for estrogen related fat. Of course the most important factor will be diet, how does it look?

i dont use thermogenics, i dont like the hot, sweaty, shaky feelings they give me. i am planning on eating clean, 6-8 meals ed. 60/30/10 protien fat carbs is the plan.

[FATBOY]

What does thermogenics have to do with test production and the
use of HCG? I have been told T3 affects protein synthesis.

[Mike P.T.]

Looks good but some tips and points to make out...

You can retain some water on eq.

Eq does convert into estrogen but not at a high degree.

If you really hate test than why not just use something like proviron in place to maintain your sex drive and your adrogenic self. - Taking test in your manner does not maitain test production only makes up for lack of what your producing.

HCG half-way FATBOY to stimulate test production from it's leutining hormone mimicking effects.

[latimer99]

Originally posted by teekahty
watch out for the Hunger ,, consider HCG half way through .
rock on ,

would not be my first choice BTW !

teek, you gotta give me more, what is wrong with the cycle.
it should provide consistant keepable gains. i might skip the tren because it is too toxic. i am looking to prevent muscle loss while dieting, i should look more vascular, while putting on some LBM.
i might cut it a couple months short if i feel i have acheived my goals.

come on brother your opinion counts

[latimer99]

Originally posted by Mike P.T.
Looks good but some tips and points to make out...

You can retain some water on eq.

Eq does convert into estrogen but not at a high degree.

If you really hate test than why not just use something like proviron in place to maintain your sex drive and your adrogenic self. - Taking test in your manner does not maitain test production only makes up for lack of what your producing.

HCG half-way FATBOY to stimulate test production from it's leutining hormone mimicking effects.

thanks for the advice but i was under the impression that proviron does not stimulate the body to produce testosterone, correct me if i am wrong.

[FATBOY]

I so far have liked winny eithe the eg, but the down fall is they have to be injected seperatley, so I am going with primo now,
they are oil based. I prefer test with all my cycle, just use different
kind to fit needs. I have shitty natural test production, I have had
major set backs that required serious treatments. I never wanted
or need AAS until my entire body was supressed due to serious
illness... that shit eating disease (Leukemia), dont want any sympathy, If it werent me it might have been some little kid who
had not even been able to experience any of the joys of life.
live everyday like it could be the last. Pump like a MF! trial and errror is the key, everybody is different. Any info is gold.

[Mike P.T.]

Originally posted by latimer99
thanks for the advice but i was under the impression that proviron does not stimulate the body to produce testosterone, correct me if i am wrong.

No it doesn't you are definately right on that one. Proviron is dht based so thus it would help maintain the androgenic part that will lack once your natural test levels fall and the eq being so mild might not make up for. DHT is the main hormone responsible for sex drive so it will help you out in this department and you won't have to worry about estrogen at all like you would if you were to take test.

[latimer99]

Originally posted by Mike P.T.
No it doesn't you are definately right on that one. Proviron is dht based so thus it would help maintain the androgenic part that will lack once your natural test levels fall and the eq being so mild might not make up for. DHT is the main hormone responsible for sex drive so it will help you out in this department and you won't have to worry about estrogen at all like you would if you were to take test.

good info, i am going to research it so i understand.
btw what is a good dose 50-75mgs ed
thanks mike

[latimer99]

Originally posted by teekahty
sorry I was bickering ... okay . I do not like EQ in cutting cycles because it makes you to damn hungy But after re-reading the thread i think what you are really hoping for is a LBM cycle (lean body mass) and for that it is nice ... (just semantics probably)

I like the masteron thing . and the tren Enan is nice too . because 8 months of ED inj. would suck hard! . how about this

frontload the EQ
week1-20 EQ @ 500 mg
week 1-20 CYP TEST @ 500 mg or even 400 if you really hate it
week 1-20 proviron at 50 mg a day
week 1-20 tren enan ( at whatever your going to run it at)
week 1-20 Nolva at 10 or 20 mg per day ( I would go 10 )
******** run some HCG here ********
week 20-32 masteron
week 20-32 tren acetate
week20-32 test prop
week20-32proviron-nolva
POST*****

thanks teek, i am tring to keep this long cycle safe though. i think the tren would be a little long for me. but that looks like a sweet cycle.
your a good bro here at FG

[Mike P.T.]

Originally posted by latimer99
good info, i am going to research it so i understand.
btw what is a good dose 50-75mgs ed
thanks mike

50mg should do you nicely. 75mg even more.

You get the added effect of extra hardness and more potential fat burning too from this androgen.