what do you guys think of eq only

[latimer99]

thank you for the advice my brothers i will keep posted.
hopefully i will get consist gains throughout

[latimer99]

i just came off a test enan, dbol, eq cycle and i was much more pleased with a tren alone cycle. i started the enan at 600wkly 1-6, @ 7-12 i upped it to 800wkly, dbol 30mgs ed 1-5. at the end i felt like i was up 25 pounds of bloat

test didnt do it for me, but for maintnance,,, ok. thanks for the advice. i have about 2500mgs of enanthate left from the last cycle. i think i will keep it to eow though @200mgs, assuming that that is a good minimum dose.

[jipped genes]

eq is suppresive to natural test prodution. if you run it long enough you will see test levels get as low as an 80 year old man. do you want the sex drive of an 80 year old man? 200 mg test wk would be a good dose to help gain a little mass and put androgens back in the mix and the dose is low enough to not cause any real sides. eq and test work better together synergistically than seperate IMO.

[HeHateMe]

Originally posted by trefling
i just think you can still have desirable results without it

Desirable results, absolutely. However, I think it's especially important when running an anabolic solo for an extensive period to atleast maintain normal testosterone levels. You don't need a boat load of test to do this. 200mg EOW, or there abouts, is the standard replacement dose for those prescribed HRT (I think). And you won't experience the bloat, acne, etc. as you'll just be replacing what is being shut down.

[trefling]

I really don't think it's true that you have to have Test in your cycle. I think for most people it is the ultimate mass builder but for others it's just too bothersom with all the bloat, acne and estrogen conversion. Yes it does make you very horny but as far as gains from my experience Deca was the best, even better than trenbolone but that's just my experience. I'm not saying it's the best way to go without test, i just think you can still have desirable results without it

No test No cycle..atleast throw SOME test in the mix!

[Mike P.T.]

Originally posted by HeHateMe
If you do decide to run it for that length (6 months), I'd atleast run a maintenance dose (200mg EOW) of test if you enjoy sex at all.

Agreed. Maybe add another 50mg to that(250mg) and make it a blend with longer acting esters such as those found in sus. Or just use test decoanate itself. Anyway I would add this in around the 10 to 12 week mark.

You could always use proviron in place of it though. 50mg ed should do the trick.

btw - how much test were you taking??

[latimer99]

the reason why i am doing this is because i dont like test. i just finished a test cycle, i broke out and did not gain much strength. i was running l-dex at 1mg ed and i got bloated.
i am looking for consistent keepable gains with little toxicity.
bass, i know you are on eq only right now, any reasoning behind it.

[HeHateMe]

If you do decide to run it for that length (6 months), I'd atleast run a maintenance dose (200mg EOW) of test if you enjoy sex at all.

[nixter]

bump for more info. I'm curious myself.

Nixter.

[latimer99]

what do you guys think of a long term eq only cycle. i was thinking of running it @600mgs a wk for 6 months.