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  • #16
    Originally posted by slopland
    Test huh. No research. Well, this is something I found during my "no research" day, and one of the main reasons that I am not going to take test. The following is from anabolicreview.com

    "We recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect".

    This is reason #2 that I dont like the idea, although deca does cause water retention, test causes it more dramatically. The following excerpt is also from anabolicreview.com

    "Certainly, one gets rap-idly massive and strong; however, one's reflected image after a few weeks often shows completely flat, watery, and puffy muscles. The muscles appear as if they have been pumped up with air' to new dimensions, yet during flexing nothing happens. Those who do not believe this should bother to go visit the so-called "bodybuilding champions" during the OFF-season when these exaggerated quanti-ties of "Testo" come in. A look at the now defunct bodybuilding magazine WBF makes it even clearer."

    So, after this, I'm sure someone will have some crappy comment so go ahead. Also, this information came from not researching. (Idiots, i've only researched for 6 months).

    P.S., thanks for the comments to the one's that didn't come across like a fucking dickhead, but keep in mind that this will be my FIRST cycle. Gotta crawl before you walk.


    I know you hear many bad things about testosterone, but sides are very easy to control. Nolva and proscar should take care of just about anything bad that low dose test does to you. Also, it is my opinion that test should be in every cycle-not nessisarily the base, or even to make gains, but because it is something the body makes and needs. Even if you onloy take 100 of test a week, I believe you should take it.

    deca has sides that are every hard to control, and dbol is a more powerful and dangerous drug that test at the same dosages, so you wanting to "stay with weaker drugs until you dont get good results" is out the window.

    just my thoughts......
    "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
    - Joseph Stalin



    Power perceived is power achieved.

    Unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Governor
      Nolva and proscar should take care of just about anything bad that low dose test does to you.

      deca has sides that are every hard to control


      i think Gov is right on for the most part, but everyone reacts differently. in my case, proscar didnt help prevent hair loss at 2.5mg ed, but i havent noticed any sides to deca yet. so go figure. however, i dont think i will do deca only again.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by slopland
        Havent you numbnutts noticed that I dont want to take test??? Believe me, I've thought about it many times. But, my best friend stopped taking it because of the rage it caused.


        look here asshole !!!!

        PLEASE SHOW ME SOME STUDIES THAT GEAR DOES CAUSE "ROID RAGE"


        just don't do it and stay the way you are. Next time don't ask for shit and STFU:2gunsfiri

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        • #19
          Rado, you fucking ****, you just showed one right there. Anyway, enough with assholes. (RADO). Thanks for the comments everyone. I know that I still have some stuff to learn so I am backing away for now. I still intend on trying AS pretty soon, but when I am more prepared. I find alot of quality information here. I just glad there are more people that are willing to teach, than to act like an idiot(RADO). To answer estanozolo, I am 23. Anyway, thanks again and I'll be reading around and posting some.

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          • #20
            By the way Rado, Testosterone is an aggression hormone. Any study you find will tell you that. This is the reason men are aggressive and most women aren't. Testosterone causes AGGRESSIVENESS. Bottom line. I'm not saying it causes ROID RAGE or just rage fits, but it WILL increase aggressiveness. In some people more than others. Go research and you will find it on any study. Any more bright ass comments??

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            • #21
              Originally posted by slopland
              By the way Rado, Testosterone is an aggression hormone. Any study you find will tell you that. This is the reason men are aggressive and most women aren't. Testosterone causes AGGRESSIVENESS. Bottom line. I'm not saying it causes ROID RAGE or just rage fits, but it WILL increase aggressiveness. In some people more than others. Go research and you will find it on any study. Any more bright ass comments??

              ok kid, whenever you find that AS causes aggresion, then we can talk, otherwise, go "study" some more kid.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by slopland
                Rado, you fucking ****

                your such a tool and a kid

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by slopland
                  Rado, you fucking ****, you just showed one right there. Anyway, enough with assholes. (RADO). Thanks for the comments everyone. I know that I still have some stuff to learn so I am backing away for now. I still intend on trying AS pretty soon, but when I am more prepared. I find alot of quality information here. I just glad there are more people that are willing to teach, than to act like an idiot(RADO). To answer estanozolo, I am 23. Anyway, thanks again and I'll be reading around and posting some.
                  not cool asshole! u just keep on fuckin up. how the hell are u gonna come here askin for help and be disrespecting good, knowledgeable, and well known members. just dont ask for shit no more and if a mod see's this please have a talk with this fucken panzy. :2gunsfiri

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BossDJ02
                    not cool asshole! u just keep on fuckin up. how the hell are u gonna come here askin for help and be disrespecting good, knowledgeable, and well known members. just dont ask for shit no more and if a mod see's this please have a talk with this fucken panzy. :2gunsfiri

                    don't get in the middle of this one bro. this fucked kid don't know what the fuck he's talking about


                    I could go on and on and rip him a new asshole but I refuse to. I will wait for more stupid ass questions from the kid.

                    "Steroids cause anger"


                    what a joke

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                    • #25
                      WHO WOULD WANT TO HELP THIS KID WITH A MOUTH LIKE THAT. LETS SEND IRON FIST AFTER HIM.THEN HE WILL BE SAYING PLEASE PLEASE NO NO DONT DONT. I WILL DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by fuzo
                        WHO WOULD WANT TO HELP THIS KID WITH A MOUTH LIKE THAT. LETS SEND IRON FIST AFTER HIM.THEN HE WILL BE SAYING PLEASE PLEASE NO NO DONT DONT. I WILL DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT.

                        ROTFLMFAO

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                        • #27
                          RADO OR SOME ONE PM ME AND TELL ME WHAT ALL THOSE LETTERS MEAN.ROTFLMFAO.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by fuzo
                            RADO OR SOME ONE PM ME AND TELL ME WHAT ALL THOSE LETTERS MEAN.ROTFLMFAO.

                            Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Fucking Ass Off


                            Dork:p

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by estanozolol
                              AAFLF
                              acronyms are for lazy fucks.

                              Slopland, I think you are making the right decision by backing away from steroids for the time being. Also, don't necessarily put aggressiveness in a bad light. IF steroids were to cause aggression (I don't believe they do), then it would be your responsibility to use that aggression in a positive manner. Take a look at "leader type individuals" (CEOs, successful people in general, etc.). I can guarantee you that these people would score higher on any measure of aggressiveness than your control group/non leader types. These people know how to use their aggressiveness to their own benefit. Just a though...

                              I'm lazy, who cares:2gunsfiri

                              not really though

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by slopland
                                By the way Rado, Testosterone is an aggression hormone. Any study you find will tell you that. This is the reason men are aggressive and most women aren't. Testosterone causes AGGRESSIVENESS. Bottom line. I'm not saying it causes ROID RAGE or just rage fits, but it WILL increase aggressiveness. In some people more than others. Go research and you will find it on any study. Any more bright ass comments??

                                This was worded poorly but I will have to agree that androgens are partly resposible for agressive behavior.

                                ...but that doesnt mean more androgens=more agression
                                "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
                                - Joseph Stalin



                                Power perceived is power achieved.

                                Unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.

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