Question for those familiar w/ blood tests

[WSURAIDER]

Say an individual was on HRT at 300 mg of cyp a week, but he wanted to run other drugs without his Dr. finding out. If an individual were on winny or eq, and he took a blood tests, would these increase his test level to over 300, in which the Dr. woudl know he was taking extra drugs, or would these drugs not effect test levels. Thanks a ton!

[flexer01]

blood work is what they make of it......to do tests like your suggesting would cost them time and money. Think of it this way......blood work is based on mediums. they take your age, weight, and medical history into account. From there they get a base to test your levels. Whether it be for narcotics (coke, meth) or steroids. The only way he'll know your running juice is if does a specific batch of tests geared towards finding your test levels!!


short answer......you have nothing to worry about!!

[WSURAIDER]

no, that is the exact reason for this test, is to see hwo my body is responding to the given dose of HRT. I am wondering if my results will read higher than they would if I was only on 300 mg of cyp, vs. say that along w/ winny, eq, or some other non test drug

[flexer01]

nope, if you dont run test your fine. like i said steroid testing is complicated (trust me) your test levels will be fine!

winny, eq, deca will all work for your application

[jack hust]

unles he is checking your liver and kidney val to see it the test is affecting them then the whinny would be a prob he might lower your dose or stop it

[flexer01]

yeh......if he makes you do a urine test, he'll see spikes in some areas. but, your body never operates at the same levels, so he won't notice a critical change.

[Pheedno]

Flexor- he's speaking on a different kind of test. They're not testing on specific drugs, they're monitering several levels to insure safety through supplementing hormones



You WILL be getting a bio-chem profile and results of that will develope ideas.

How long have you been on?

If you have a consistant range that you've been in on your various levels(AST/ALT/CK/CS/GGT/AS etc.) and those levels are suddenly effected, the doctor will wonder why these levels are effected. Over one blood test, he probably won't be able tell simply becasue one test is a starting point, it takes several test to even begin to assess possible causes. If you have frequent tests that render consistant unbalanced levels in comparison to before, he'll assume something is wrong.

Now Winny is very mild in it's androgenic property so chances are that Test levels won't be greatly effected. However, your AST, ALT, and GGT levels might be(they don't test for GGT unless it's asked for )

EQ, again is pretty mild so great dips in test probably won't occur


In any case, it's all individualistic. A six compound cycle might not effect various levels in one guy, and the guy sitting next to him on test only could have a surge on negative effects in his blood work.


Do you have a hard copy(ies) of previous blood work?

[flexer01]

you took what i said a put sugar on it........

[Pheedno]

No actually I'm elaborating on it since you assumed that a T. Testosterone level was the only thing checked in this circumstance

His doctor is not only looking a Test levels to determine the options for his HRT

He gets a complete bio-chem( I have one done every 3 wks while cycling)

This includes:
BUN
Creatinine
SGOT
SGPT
Alkaline Phosphate
T. Billirubin
Calcium Serum
T. Protein Serum
Albumin Serum
Globulin
A/G ratio

(Supplemented levels I ask for in mine are CK-Creatine Kinase and GGT-Gammglutamyltransferase)


You'll also find levels such as Glucose, sodium, potassium, chloride, carbon dioxide, etc.

The list under "this includes" is what his doc's monitering to assess progress on his HRT, if he has a number of levels consistant through numerous testing and those above levels become unstable in accordance to previous testing, his doc might take off HRT which would be detrimental to a possible neccessity in this mans life.

[WSURAIDER]

Thanks a ton for all of your replies. Actually, I am on cycle right now, and have been on heavy for about 6 months. I was open with my doctor, and he volunteered to start me off at 300 mg of cyp a week to avoid a crash. However, I still don't have my original goals met, so I want to keep gaining. What would you guys do in this situation?

[mick-G]

I'm in a similar situation. The test in my blood is low, but my Dr. won't tell me how much test hes giving or what test it is. He says its depo> So i think its cyp. I do know its alittle over a quarter of a syringe. He also wants me to start HCG 4000iu three times a wk, yes 4000iu a shot three times a wk. I want to build lean, but I don't want it to interfere with the natural test production. I was told by some that if I increase the test or try to stack with a leaning AS it will be detectable in blood? I know hes not giving me enough to build. It makes it kind of hard to use AS when on this therapy.