Stupid cycle?

[mike101]

A guy I was talking to at the gym told me he was cycling d-bol and winny together, i'm not sure what the doses were. Is this a good stack or no? Just curious because out of all the stacks I've heard they're usually sus/deca, dbol/test, etc. I've never heard someone say they were stacking d-bol and winny but it sounds kinda interesting cause the d-bol could give u size and the winny would get u ripped, plus the winny might get rid of some of the water induced by the dbol....
Any thoughts????

[calidude]

Well if you want to kill your liver then take the cycle. But if you like your liver i wouldn't stack them together. Both of the drugs you are wanting to do are c17 alpha alkylated. Which is a bad thing for your liver.

[mike101]

i dont want to kill my liver......seems like it could be an interesting cycle tho.............maybe theres a way to work the doses so its not too harsh on the liver, plus the obvious ALA, milk thistle, etc.

[BossDJ02]

its not a cycle i would do or recommend bro. too harsh on the liver, plus any gains u get will not stay with u. im a strong believer of test being the basis of every cycle.

[mike101]

why would u say it wouldnt give permanent gains? because it doesnt have test as a base?
Also, I guess that means if someone did a straight d-bol cycle even with good PCT it'd be hard to keep gains?

[Got Gear?]

While I agree that it's a crappy cycle, I think that it does have some merit.

50mg of 17aa's is still 50mg.

I think that a stack of 25mg b-dol + 25mg winny would be a better than just 50mg of winny or dbol.

What about a 6 week cycle.. 3 weeks dbol then 3 weeks winny. Sometimes I think people underestimate just what an oral cycle can do for you. I think something like this would probably make for a 1/2 decent 1st cycle.

[obscured78]

no bueno

[stiles]

It's not really a stack, there is no androgen base (d-bol has some androgenic actitivity but whinny has almost none, they are both mostly anabolic).

[flexer01]

send me the winny and d-bol and i'll try the cycle!!! lol

[mike101]

Originally posted by stiles
It's not really a stack, there is no androgen base (d-bol has some androgenic actitivity but whinny has almost none, they are both mostly anabolic).

i don't know as much as most people do about steroids but why is an androgen base so important, from what ive read almost everyone keeps some form of test in their cycle... is it bad that the winny and d-bol cycle doesnt have a test base.... plus u would most likely avoid gyno......

[bad brains]

A cycle without test to me is a waste of good gear.Test should be the backbone to all cycles, with everything else just complementing it.And saying winny and d-bol is harsh on the liver, so is every other 17aa.I would not do them at the same time again, but it does yield good results.....BUT ONLY WITH A TEST.....So I would say winny and d-bol(by themselves) are not a good choice......

[stiles]

testerone is by far the most beloved androgen base . The testerone will solidify your gains. As far as estrogen based sides that's pretty controllable with various anti-amoritize and anti-estrogen drugs. I got to run.