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    been thinking of doing a sust dbol cycle with 500mgs of sust and 30 mg of dbol for 5 weeks, but what if i just did 750 mgs of sust and just that? would they probably yield the same results or do you think one would be better than the other?

  • #2
    first off i think 5 weeks is way too short cause the long acting test would be just kicking in. You want atleast 8 weeks and no more than 12 weeks. Some do more weeks but that is the basic guide line, most do 10 weeks. AS for you question i would think(if you do 10wk cycle) that d-bol and sust would be better than sust alone.
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    • #3
      why are you doing such a short cycle? lack of gear? sust has gear with long and short half lives and will be kicking in strong when you stop at 5 weeks. 8 weeks would be better but 10 weeks of sust and 5 weeks of d-bol look out pros! LOL how many cycles you done bro?
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      • #4
        sorry i was not clear on my explanation. i will be doing a 10 week cycle no matter what. either with sus and dbol or just sus.
        as for how many cycles ive done i only did one cycle before and had to cut it short, i was just taking 500mg of QV enanthate a week.

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        • #5
          ok...........then you really havent done a cycle.........so do this..........
          weeks 1-8 sust 250-500mg eod injections prefered to take advantage of the prop.

          if you really want to use the dbol the weeks 1-4 25-30mg ed........be sure to take your liver and kidney protectants while on( cranberry extract, milkthistle, ALA, H20)............then 2 weeks after your last injection of sust start clomid.
          day 1-300mg
          days 2-8-200mg ed
          days 9-15 100mg ed
          days 16-21 50mg ed
          DHEA
          along with creatine 30g split through the day
          glutamine 30g split also
          up the calorie intake
          knock a day of training off the schedule
          train harder
          sleep more

          GROW

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          • #6
            Weeks 1-4: 30mg dbol ED
            Weeks 1-10: 500mg Sus

            Thats perfect, 750mg is too much for a first cycle IMO.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by x|Fluid|x
              Weeks 1-4: 30mg dbol ED
              Weeks 1-10: 500mg Sus

              Thats perfect, 750mg is too much for a first cycle IMO.
              thats perfect right there. great newbie cycle

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              • #8
                Originally posted by x|Fluid|x
                Weeks 1-4: 30mg dbol ED
                Weeks 1-10: 500mg Sus

                I agree here, that was my first cycle.
                Knowledge is power.

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                • #9
                  hit the soste for 10 weeks, 8 minimum, 12 maximum, the dbol is fine maybe 4 weeks will do. The test takes a while to kick in bro wont see the results like in 5-7 week on the cycle. The dbol is instand within the first week or second u've put on some weight some water mostly but its all good. But yeah have some nolvadex just in hand in case of gyno symptoms. And clomid for post cycle to u can have ur natural test levels running back to normal within a month or 2 after the cycle bro.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cocktail
                    ok...........then you really havent done a cycle.........so do this..........
                    weeks 1-8 sust 250-500mg eod injections prefered to take advantage of the prop.

                    if you really want to use the dbol the weeks 1-4 25-30mg ed........be sure to take your liver and kidney protectants while on( cranberry extract, milkthistle, ALA, H20)............then 2 weeks after your last injection of sust start clomid.
                    day 1-300mg
                    days 2-8-200mg ed
                    days 9-15 100mg ed
                    days 16-21 50mg ed
                    DHEA
                    along with creatine 30g split through the day
                    glutamine 30g split also
                    up the calorie intake
                    knock a day of training off the schedule
                    train harder
                    sleep more

                    GROW





                    I don't understand why you are suggesting to take Sust EOD to take advantage of the Prop. I understand your logic being prop has a short active life. But Sust only comes in 250 mg per cc. So if he were to take Sust every other day (3-4 times a week) that would be 750-1000mg of Sust weekly. So that is not a good idea. Not trying to flame you just pointing that out.

                    Also Sust only has 30 mg of Prop in each cc

                    Sustanon:

                    Prop 30 mg
                    PhenylProp 60 mg
                    Isocaporate 60 mg
                    Decanoate 100 mg

                    Which are all Tests

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