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Flex. Preciate the suggestion.
what kind of gains can I expect with this cycle? During this cycle I will be taking Test and Deca together right? When I do that, what is the injection schedule? Should I use spot injections? Clomid to maintain gains?
Does Test give water gains or nitro gains?
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Its no problem bro. Your gains will vary on this cycle. It is very hard to tell what you may gain. But you will be happy with the results. You will be taking Test and Deca together for 8 weeks.
On Mondays you will inject 250mg of Test and 200mg of Deca and on Thursdays you would inject 250mg of Test and 200mg of Deca. Do that for a total of 8 weeks. I would just focus on the main injections sites.
For example,
22 or 23 Gauge, 1.5 Inch is great for injections into
the glutes.
25 Gauge, 1.0 inch is great for injections into the
quads and can be used for all spot injections.
25 Gauge, 5/8 inch is often used for
tricep/bicep/delts
Clomid will be used post cycle to maintain your gains.
Clomid Therapy Times
3 weeks after last injection
300mg day 1
100mg The next 10 days
50mg The last 10 days
Always a good idea to just keep the Nolv on hand.
Some side effects associated with testosterone esters are:
Water retention
Gynecomastia
Increase in fat
Hair loss
Growth of body hair
Increased blood pressure
Suppression of endogenous testosterone
Increased aggression
the pupil raises his hand once again and asks " For example, on Monday when I inject the 250 Test and 200 Deca,will I inject all of into the rt bicep or split it up into both biceps? or would I split it up into different regions?"
I apologize for the elementary question I just want to COMPLETELY understand this. Thanks man
My teachings are like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not mistake the finger for the moon.
Originally posted by Redfoot the pupil raises his hand once again and asks " For example, on Monday when I inject the 250 Test and 200 Deca,will I inject all of into the rt bicep or split it up into both biceps? or would I split it up into different regions?"
I apologize for the elementary question I just want to COMPLETELY understand this. Thanks man
If you want to gain gradually like you mentioned you might want to consider a test by itself. 400-500mgs a week split into two injections a week all in one area. I would also stick to basic areas like the glutes or quads.
Originally posted by Redfoot Is it possible to substitute Test Enanthate alone for 250mg Sustanon? if so, would I still use the clomid and Nolv (nolv if necess)?
I would suggest enanthate over sust. Still need clomid and nolvadex.
Originally posted by bowbow I would suggest enanthate over sust. Still need clomid and nolvadex.
I would agree that Enanthate would be better over sust. The reason for this is Sustanon 250 is Quick acting and needs to be injected at least every 2 to 3 days.
The shear volume of info is amazing! With regards to gains and side effects..would one be better than the other (Sus or Enant)? Am I at more risk of gyne with one or the other. by the way..both of these aromatize to estrogen which is countered with nolv..right?
To give a more of a panoramic pic of my situation...I am in an institution of higher education with a peer group that may be fairly keen to the signs of my usage. this is the need for a "slower" gain....suggestions...anyone been in a situation like this?
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Originally posted by bowbow Gains and side effects are difficult to speculate as everyone reacts a little differently.
This is correct. As everyone says... "Test is Test" But some are faster acting than others. Keep that Nolv on hand to help if the signs of Gyno if they should start. Thats what were here for bro.... To help others out...
Originally posted by Redfoot Am I at more risk of gyne with one or the other. by the way..both of these aromatize to estrogen which is countered with nolv..right?
No you shouldn't be at a higher risk w/ one or they other.
For your second question, yes nolva would help, but I would run some liquidex in there at .25mg ED or EOD to help so you don't retain to much water.
Winnie...I am 6'2" 188-190lbs. When I start to gain..will the water gain go to my face and extremities to the extent that I look like I have had an anaphylactic rxn? I am currently pretty trim so any amt of "fat" is noticeable. Thx
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