off topic: need major help with back shoulders

[BullFX]

hey guys my back shoulders are really doin shity... my front shoulder is 2x as big as the back one it almost looks stupid... what do u sujest??

[BigSoda]

hit your rears 1st in your rutine and drop the presses for a while

[AceDaBoss]

Reverse lateral raises.

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by AceDaBoss
Reverse lateral raises.

yup do that or do back neck presses. Work good for me

[Damonic]

I do rear delts with back. usually do cables

[latimer99]

priority principle, train the rear delt at the start of your week/routine. use different intensity techniques to shock the muscles into growth: 21's, stripping method, negatives, run the rack until failor, isolation training, and my favorite to get the pump, do supersets and trisets. just some examples.
exercises to consider are:
-bent over lateral raises
-seated lateral raises
-behind the neck press
-lying lateral raises
-seated lateral cable raises
-incline lateral raises (facedown)
twist the wrists at the top (as if pounding a beer out of a glass) to get maximum rear delt contraction
the rear delts will recover in 48 hours if you are taking in the right food and resting enough, therefore you should train them three times a week until they are looking up to par.
good luck.
-lats

[Sage]

no need to drop presses. Just be selective and prioritize your rear delts. Behind the neck presses are great, and also, partial/rack deads will hit the entire upper back, giving you bulk in the area in and around the rear deltiods.
Sage

[new231]

I take the high cables and grip the left cable with my right hand and the right cable with my left hand and stand in the middle of the two cables. Then I pull them simultaneously across my body so that my arms are going across my body and I end up in a T form with my arms outside of my body. Its like high cable pulls. Hits the rear delts better than any exercise I have ever done.

[stonecold54]

latimer99: whoa whoa whoa, did you actually say that they rear delts will recover in 48 hours? are they more special then any other muscle for some reason? A muscle is a muscle is a muscle. the only thing that effects recovery is whether the persons genetic makeup is more fast twitch or slow-twitch (obviously gear helps and I am assuming proper nutrition). an individual muscle group does not have a specific healing time. that is like people who work abs everyday because for some reason they think they are a different kind of muscle.

[Drenten]

Originally posted by stonecold54
latimer99: whoa whoa whoa, did you actually say that they rear delts will recover in 48 hours? are they more special then any other muscle for some reason? A muscle is a muscle is a muscle. the only thing that effects recovery is whether the persons genetic makeup is more fast twitch or slow-twitch (obviously gear helps and I am assuming proper nutrition). an individual muscle group does not have a specific healing time. that is like people who work abs everyday because for some reason they think they are a different kind of muscle.

While I agree that recovery time is a highly individual thing, the deltoids do contain a large percentage of pennate muscle, which has been shown to recover a good bit faster than fusiform or convergent type muscles.

A muscle is a muscle isn’t really true, different muscles are different.

[Drenten]

Re: off topic: need major help with back shoulders

Originally posted by BullFX
hey guys my back shoulders are really doin shity... my front shoulder is 2x as big as the back one it almost looks stupid... what do u sujest??

If you can do them comfortably try wide-grip upright rows with a slight forward lean. Lift just up to the point that your upper arms are parallel to the ground. You can go higher than parallel, but your traps will take over once you go that high.

[stonecold54]

interesting post drenten could you explain the difference between the different muscle types you listed and do you know why they have different recovery times? I like learning new things, though I still don't think shoulders recover in 48 hours

[Drenten]

In a fusiform (parallel) muscle the belly of the muscle contracts in a straight line with the origin and insertion points of the tendon. Think of the biceps muscle.

A pennate muscle does not contract in a straight line with the tendons. The belly of a pennate muscle runs somewhat diagonally in relation to the tendons. When it contracts it is almost like twisting a towel to wring it out – it shortens (contracts) when you twist it.

A pennate muscle is capable of moving proportionally heavier loads than a fusiform muscle, but it contracts a much shorter distance.

You can find tons of information on Google by searching for “pennate muscle”.

Here is an article from T-mag.com that touches on training of the pennate muscles of the deltoids:

http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/253delt.jsp

[stonecold54]

thanks bro I will be pulling out my old PT books and some new ones hopefully.

[BullFX]

thx alot guys good info there